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    News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Gamer-orientated service will prioritise packets for lower latencies.
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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    All well and good if your exchange is ADSL2+ enabled. Starting to think mine will never change so i constantly get shafted price and download wise.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Personally I've always used BT as my ISP and have always had a great ping. TBH this would put me off demon, as they as basically shouting out "we shape our traffic" - there shouldn't be any need for traffic shaping.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Well I'm with Be* at the moment and I find it hard to believe that they could beat the pings that I get with Be*. I always have the best ping. Once I had a ping of 2

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Quote Originally Posted by hexus
    Although the company claims that the prioritisation won't noticeably impact normal users, it has technically created a tiered service where the data of one user is given more worth than that of another.
    Not really - they've said that some data types will have higher priority. It's an important distinction and means that it doesn't really fall foul of net neutrality, just like throttling p2p packets doesn't.

    However it'd be interesting to see how much affect the end provider really has.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Sounds interesting - what are Demon like as an ISP these days? Haven't really heard much from them since the 56k days!!

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Quote Originally Posted by Merson View Post
    All well and good if your exchange is ADSL2+ enabled. Starting to think mine will never change so i constantly get shafted price and download wise.
    Mine is, but it still sucks because of distance... ADSL2+ only helps much if you're quite close. I'm crossing fingers that BT switching on Infinity on the 30th Sept will work for me, I'm on a non-Virgin street, equidistant between 2 exchanges with long cable length and it sucks big time.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Mine is, but it still sucks because of distance... ADSL2+ only helps much if you're quite close. I'm crossing fingers that BT switching on Infinity on the 30th Sept will work for me, I'm on a non-Virgin street, equidistant between 2 exchanges with long cable length and it sucks big time.
    Pretty much in the same situation, no virgin media, medium distance away from the exchange and totally no hope of any advances of technology like BT infinity. Exchange was targeted to be enabled last year Q3 but that's long gone with no update. What get's me is the price differences between ADSL and 2+, it's massive. Along with the harsh download allowances it makes it difficult to find the right package at a right price.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Perfectly happy with my connection tbh . Doubt they'll beat 8ms.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Beware, BT infinity might not be the brilliant thing you expect though - they admit they employ exactly the same traffic management on it as they do on their ADSL lines. Having had an ADSL BT connection and paying for their highest package somehow I was only ever to get stuttering low-quality iplayer thanks to their ridiculous throttling, even though my line, according to their tester, should give 6MB/s. After 6 months of asking them to fix it, and unsatisfactory responses I left. BT, IMO, suck.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Seems more of a gimmick than anything else to me, but I guess if Demon are just reselling the BT Wholesale product they have to try and differentiate themselves somehow. I've not noticed any problems with gaming on my connection recently, but then I am running at about 12Mbps so it's not really much of an issue

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Can't seem to trust them after they sent all of my account and personal information to thousands of people in an email attachment.
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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash477 View Post
    there shouldn't be any need for traffic shaping.
    There's every need to perform traffic shaping. Any ISP which doesn't perform traffic shaping is simply incompetent and will perform more poorly. The issue isn't that they perform traffic shaping, but rather which rules they use to prioritise traffic.
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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    ^^ This.

    ISP1 shapes traffic. ISP2 does not.

    People think ISP1 sucks

    Turns out ISP1 is prioritising time critical data such as streamed audio and video while forcing email and web pages into the background. No one notices the added latency to the loading web pages or emails that take a second or two longer to hit their inbox, but everyone notices that iPlayer doesn't stutter and YouTube loads faster.

    Turns out ISP1 is awesome. This is why there is a need for shaping.

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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    so is it just fast path or is it port based QoS?

    If its QoS then games like CS:S with no fixed server port will not really work on this.
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    Re: News - Demon Internet launches Game Pro broadband

    They could pretty much do a 'catch-all' on all UDP traffic not matching known ports/destinations, they could also use custom l7 filters if they want to be really picky. I tend to give UDP high priority for things like DNS and VoIP anyway.
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