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    News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    28 percent said it was easy and one third think it’s cool.
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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Pfft, back in my day we wrote code, exploited clear text transission over the wire, etc.

    Not just doing re-set password, for a start of that is cracking, not hacking, there is no challange in it.....
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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    ^^ exactly..what is described as "hacking" is nothing even close, and even when people are doing more than just guessing a password or similar, 99.9% of the time they are just using tools built by other people..aka they are script kiddies.

    If 1/5th of uni students are writing their own tools to exploit bugs, adding a bit of social engineering and analysis to the mix...then i'd be impressed.

    I know we shouldnt take it all seriously but hexus..please don't add to the idea that anything dodgy with a computer is "hacking"..its just simply not true.

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    I'd like to see the questions asked in this survey - my point being that these numbers appear to be absurd! I would also like to see what they define as 'hacking', probably something like:

    "Have you ever 'fraped' someone?"

    Are they really saying 1 in 5 students are IT pros? Hell, I doubt even 1% of computer science students would know how to actually hack a well established site for example.

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    If cracking counts as hacking, then I was doing it when I was 7. I guessed the admin's password of my school's BBC micro network twice in the space of a week. First was her son's name, second was her car number plate. Third time she'd learnt her lesson.

    If the average student in my Physics Dept is to go by, more than 4 out of 5 students (and these are Physics students, not arts) don't even really know a single programming language. So I'd have thought hacking might be a bit difficult for 1 in 5 of them.

    As above really, the survey is talking about cracking passwords, which requires next to no skill at all. Just a general reliance on the fact that 90% of people out there chose something really obvious for their password.
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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    As above really, the survey is talking about cracking passwords, which requires next to no skill at all. Just a general reliance on the fact that 90% of people out there chose something really obvious for their password.
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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    I'm forever hearing people calling themselves hackers after guessing a few simple Facebook passwords or people who change their name on MW2 to use button symbols or something by downloading a tool and using a transfer kit. It's a bit insulting to the proper hackers really. As 99x said they should have thrown a few trap questions in to see if they really know the first thing about hacking. Proper hacking is interesting, I wouldn't call it cool if it's used maliciously though.

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Guessing passwords isn't hard, especially if you know the person. I can cast iron guarantee that one of my mates passwords will be a specific string with a random number or character on the end, most likely from the right hand side of the keyboard...

    In fact at college we taught him a lesson by chucking a batch file in his startup items that shutdown the computer. God knows how long it took the IT helpdesk to find that, they were at it for ages...

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    They probably mean "Hack" in Counter-Strike or CoD
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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    if it meant more angelina back when she was fresh:
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    hell yeh.

    But Sarah, please these stories are begging to be taken cynically. As it stands these stories make me hate the fact that the word hacker has been degraded.
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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Was the survey of students studying IT, or was it of students generally?

    I'd be genuinely surprised if anything like one-fifth of ordinary students could do anything of the sort - even of the sort described here, which, surely, isn't hacking in any real sense.

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Id suspect that most of the fifth were either "bored, curious or showing off", I doubt any were serious malicious hackings.

    But it can be a slippery slope in some cases.

    Of more significance is that vastly more students have probably committed theft.

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Aye as others have said, either guessing your mate's password or even, better as someone told me recently, going into an o2 store and using the display iphone to check your facebook then leaving yourself logged in resulting in 'facebook rape' (also a massive slap in the face to real rape victims by devaluing the word) is not hacking.

    I'll admit I cracked a few games back in the early 90s using hex editors or text editors (btw games I owned and I never gave out the cracks) - e.g. one game that refused to work if you had your cd drive letter as anything other than d.

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    Re: News - One fifth of uni students have hacked, says survey

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    If 1/5th of uni students are writing their own tools to exploit bugs, adding a bit of social engineering and analysis to the mix...then i'd be impressed.
    You'd be impressed and the rest of us would be screwed

    *wonders how many think using the stupid, automatically created administrator account under safe mode is 'hacking'*

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