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    News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    25nm drives should push performance up and prices down.
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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    How near is near future in regards to new SandForce controllers?

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    How do you know that the G3s will be 3bit/cell designs? Also I wouldn't bet on halving the price/GB this time around. I think that if all drives get the super cap "safe cache" I would guess that this feature alone would cost around an additional £10 for all configuration

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamAnubis View Post
    How near is near future in regards to new SandForce controllers?
    I'd really like to know this as well. I'm not sure if I should hold off upgrading to a bigger faster SSD.
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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Quote Originally Posted by semo View Post
    How do you know that the G3s will be 3bit/cell designs? Also I wouldn't bet on halving the price/GB this time around. I think that if all drives get the super cap "safe cache" I would guess that this feature alone would cost around an additional £10 for all configuration
    We don't, unfortunately. However, IMFT is known to be working fully on 3bpc using a 25nm process. It makes sense for Intel to jump on this as soon as possible.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    personally, I think the market is desperate for a better cost/gigabyte ratio rather than better performance.

    The difference, as everyone keeps saying, is between an SSD and a HDD. I think most decent SSDs have now matured they should be non-stuttering & maintains performance through TRIM or good idle garbage collection. Assuming there's no massive negative performance problems, then I'm really not sure how many desktop users could notice the difference in speed between a 300MB/s and 350MB/s, or a 20000 IOPS and 25000 IOPS drive. Unless running benchmarks of course.

    Where it will become really interesting is when other firms also start using the smaller process flash chips - if cost/gigabyte is the same, obviously people will look at Intel's performance far more critically.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryRW View Post
    personally, I think the market is desperate for a better cost/gigabyte ratio rather than better performance.
    As soon as they have a ~100GB drive for under £100 the cost/price pressure will start to dissipate, of course people will always want bigger and cheaper, but really the driving focus for getting an SSD is speed... so I would imagine performance is the major driving factor.

    I just wish more of these drives would be pushing SATA6G, I am planning to do a major system upgrade sometime next year, and want to be putting sata6g stuff in play if only to give me more headroom for a system refresh in a couple of years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordas View Post
    As soon as they have a ~100GB drive for under £100 the cost/price pressure will start to dissipate, of course people will always want bigger and cheaper, but really the driving focus for getting an SSD is speed... so I would imagine performance is the major driving factor.

    I just wish more of these drives would be pushing SATA6G, I am planning to do a major system upgrade sometime next year, and want to be putting sata6g stuff in play if only to give me more headroom for a system refresh in a couple of years time.
    Thing is, there aren't many drives out there capable of outstripping SATA 3Gbps. Sure, we're getting close, but 275MBps is still nothing to scoff at. Most high-end boards now come with at least a few SATA 6 ports, so you could easily build a system that's ready for super fast future drives, but use a "slow" SATA 3 drive for the time being.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Quote Originally Posted by BullDogg View Post
    Thing is, there aren't many drives out there capable of outstripping SATA 3Gbps. Sure, we're getting close, but 275MBps is still nothing to scoff at. Most high-end boards now come with at least a few SATA 6 ports, so you could easily build a system that's ready for super fast future drives, but use a "slow" SATA 3 drive for the time being.
    The problem is that at the moment its only the high-end / high priced boards that are supporting SATA6G, I will be looking for the more value end of the market and they are unlikely to support these features until the market expands...

    Nevermind the fact that if Intel announced that their new SSDs were going to support SATA6G, it would be a good indication that they are planning to launch a mainstream chipset with that support.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    do intel have native support for sata6gb on the chipsets they sell yet or is that still added by the partners with addon chips? may be a reason for them sticking to sata 3gb

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Sata6 is coming with 1155 next year.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Is anyone else underwhelmed by Intel's figures, more so when compared too the new SandForce offerings ?
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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Is anyone else underwhelmed by Intel's figures, more so when compared too the new SandForce offerings ?
    Depends if they're realistic or best case. At the moment I'd trust Intel to be the former and SandForce to be the latter. As ever with SSDs, it's never about the headline figure, or we'd all be using cheap first gen jmicron controlled devices.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    I'd be disappointed if they stick at 3gbs speeds in light of what SandForce have in the offering with there 2xxx series chips unless there having a value line and refresh and push the Extreme line again.

    Its always been touted that the current drives could push 500Mbs so sounds daft sticking with a controller thats substandard to the competition I can understand keeping a 275Mbs limit for SataII as its keeping things safe to avoid data corruption.

    Plus with SandForce hitting 60K IOPs @ 4k on there 2K line it makes Intel look 2nd rate.... Could this be why they pushed back there Gen 3 drives ?

    Intel have in the past generally pulled out all the stop and introduced a SSD product that is that far ahead of the competition that it can stay in the main stream and still be classed as competitive even in a years time.

    Can't believe Intel would go conservative.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Most computers don't even have a SATA 3.0 connection so whereas the speed improvements maybe nice for people who have computers which can take advantage of this it does not bother so much ATM.
    I would rather the price of SSDs drop even further to at least a £1 a GB or even less.

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    Re: News - Next-gen Intel SSD specs leaked?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Most computers don't even have a SATA 3.0 connection so whereas the speed improvements maybe nice for people who have computers which can take advantage of this it does not bother so much ATM.
    I would rather the price of SSDs drop even further to at least a £1 a GB or even less.
    Wouldn't we all

    And you may find that the proportion of PCs with SATA 6Gbps is somewhat higher amongst those considering SSD - even before noting the possibility of adding a cheap expansion card with boot capability

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