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    News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Nokia has spoken out to stress its commitment to the beleaguered smartphone OS.
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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    "smartphone OS"? Really? Does anyone beyond Nokia believe that?

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    "smartphone OS"? Really? Does anyone beyond Nokia believe that?
    Its been said by many people, Nokia should stick to making hardware and give up on software. Its a new age and symbian is history.

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Well symbian just got 200mil from the EU to keep afloat and seems as Nokia has also had money from the same source i would suspect they have more to lose then gain. I have never really had any problems from symbian it seems very stable and nokia seem to use it well, it just needs to get with the times a little.

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    Its been said by many people, Nokia should stick to making hardware and give up on software. Its a new age and symbian is history.
    doubt youll think that when mee-go is out

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Cozwin View Post
    doubt youll think that when mee-go is out
    Indeed. Maemo, and now Meego are outstanding Operating Systems. About the only thing Maemo lacked was a concerted effort from Nokia to push for its adoption, partially because they keep wasting effort trying to resurrect Symbian, leaving customers confused, and Nokia appearing directionless.
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    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Indeed. Maemo, and now Meego are outstanding Operating Systems. About the only thing Maemo lacked was a concerted effort from Nokia to push for its adoption, partially because they keep wasting effort trying to resurrect Symbian, leaving customers confused, and Nokia appearing directionless.
    the new ceo seems very pro meego i would suspect we will see it in product next year.

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Fingers crossed. In the meantime I'm eyeing up an N900.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    they keep wasting effort trying to resurrect Symbian, leaving customers confused, and Nokia appearing directionless.
    Appearing?

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    N900 does not have the hardware power to compete with the likes of the desire Z, Desire HD or Samsung Galaxy S.

    I looked at the N900 10 months ago and decided to stick with a E71 because there were too many reports of hardware and software issues.

    Problem for Nokia is getting apps for what ever OS they decide to run with. The latest smart phones from apple and android have over 100,000 apps each to choose. Ok most of these are rubbish, but choice is what people want...

    The average consumer wouldn't care if Nokia had the next best thing since slice bread but no software support.

    Another thing is - is there room for another mobile os for developers to developer for. Making games and apps for 5 os's (ios, Windows, android, RIM and Nokia) would not happen. Developers will stick to the biggest and popular ones.

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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Am I the only one who reads the headline and just thinks "not slow enough".

    There are certain things which the sooner they die, the better. Pre NT Windows (can you imagine if the net was full of them now?! Russian Mafia would control the interwebbles), Any mouse designed by Apple, Gordon Browns prudence...........

    Symbian had its place, it was always a pig of an OS, a bugger to code for (in comparison to CE) and ultimately not that stable. The only thing missed will be how it handled SMS delivery reports.
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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    N900 does not have the hardware power to compete with the likes of the desire Z, Desire HD or Samsung Galaxy S.
    It doesn't need a 1.6GHz dual core beast burning a hole in your pocket because it doesn't waste countless cycles having to deal with the overhead and general sloppiness of Java. Most of the time the Cortex A8 will idle at 250MHz, a soft limit which the user can override. The A8 is also designed to scale up to 1GHz, the N900 is soft-locked to only scale up to 600MHz because a) it rarely needs more than that, and b) to conserve the battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    I looked at the N900 10 months ago and decided to stick with a E71 because there were too many reports of hardware and software issues.
    I know a few people who own it and they've not had any issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    Problem for Nokia is getting apps for what ever OS they decide to run with. The latest smart phones from apple and android have over 100,000 apps each to choose. Ok most of these are rubbish, but choice is what people want...
    The selection is still vast and covers just about everything you'd want to do with a phone, and for me, I can write and install whatever programme I want, without having to bend over for either Apple or Google. Maemo apps aren't trivial to programme, either, which means anyone who's written one will generally know what they're doing. Or if they don't, they certainly will by the time they reach 1.0 of their app. It's basically natural selection for software.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    The average consumer wouldn't care if Nokia had the next best thing since slice bread but no software support.
    That's a bit of a stretch. Nokia still maintain Maemo, and are busy polishing off Meego, and the N900 is basically it's flagship base of development.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    Another thing is - is there room for another mobile os for developers to developer for. Making games and apps for 5 os's (ios, Windows, android, RIM and Nokia) would not happen. Developers will stick to the biggest and popular ones.
    There's always more room for competition. Nor do I particular care if the latest and greatest in absolutely pointless apps don't get ported to it. Ultimately, because Maemo/Meego is basically a Linux distro, with some UI pretty on top, it's going to receive more loving from F/OSS developers, either directly, or indirectly.

    The N900/Maemo/Meego isn't for everyone, but it's more attractive for me than the other options. But as someone who sees a good quality terminal as a godsend, rather than an 'outdated curse', I can see why the majority of people aren't more interested in it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    As a long time symbian user whos jumped ship to Android - I can only say I won't go back.

    Also the only way I can see meego taking off in large numbers is to either:
    1) Make porting Android/iOS apps easily (maybe even an android WINE equivalent so Android apps just work).
    2) Make it damn easy to (quickly) develop for it - Android is a good case in point - When I first looked at it, it had horrible tools - they are now far better (but still not perfect) so I've actually started looking at producing my first app. I wouldn't however touch iOS as its objective-C and requires a Mac to develop.
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    Re: News - Symbian’s slow death continues

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    I know a few people who own it and they've not had any issues.
    +1

    I've had one for several months now and I can't say I've had any real issues. With the recent firmware update it seems better than ever. It's very responsive, better battery life than before and can now easily boot meego. Best phone on the market imo

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