News - Adobe CEO promises Flash fix to help MacBook Air battery life

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Patch is on the way, but it’s still Apple’s fault.

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In case the CEO missed the point completely - Flash is bad not only on Apple products, maybe they should patch them computers as well?

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Originally Posted by spoon_

In case the CEO missed the point completely - Flash is bad not only on Apple products, maybe they should patch them computers as well?

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Whenever you have to patch for individual computers that - lets not forget - are based on the exact same silicon as other PCs, there's clearly something going wrong.

Ah yes, so it's Apples fault for Adobe developers not profiling Flash's power usage by not providing them with free laptops. OK then, what's their excuse for their equally crap Linux performance? After all, they can take just about any Windows laptop and slap Linux on it (Did Microsoft provide Adobe developers with Windows laptops? :rolleyes:).

Weak...

And Apple is being all closed and proprietorial by rooting for HTML5, and Adobe isn't by rooting for Flash? Extra weak.

If it wasn't for the fact flash was crap on all Apple products then yes they could claim that.

But it is also worth saying that my Z series (which weighs 30grams more than an air, but has a better screen, CPU, SSD, Blu-Ray, biometrics......) does loose a whole hour of battery life, bringing it to about 6.5 hours when surfing with flash turned on.

So there is *something* going wrong on that platform. Now a good example of how you can end up with issues would be something as simple as a progress bar animation.

You can do these in a couple of ways, but generally the most performant is to use a brush that is animated. Until you hit a graphics card which doesn't support this, and suddenly its MUCH worse as its emulated in software.

The other fact is that the news headline isn't a fully fair test, when you turn off flash its not a like for like comparison, plenty of sites resort to static images, or even text adds when its not available. Whilst most people will not be lamenting such loss, its is a valid point to keep in mind, its not always adobes fault with the increased power because people actually use flash (even if its for things you don't want) on their sites. If HTML5 takes off all that will happen is people making their adds with a canvas element? Probably using designer tools that create bloody bloated JS.

HTML 5 is quite a way off before coming a mainstream standard but sure enough will happen. Very nice things you can do with it.

Im no fan of Apple, but really Adobe? You make how many millions a year and you can't afford to buy a couple laptops? Not an excuse in my books and piss poor performance of the platform rests on not just adobe but the developers who poorly optimise their projects for the platform and end user. Inefficient code and poorly executed creative are just as bigger problem as the platform itself.

Because of my hatred for Apple, I'm backing Adobe. GO ADOBE!!

In order to accelerate flash (thats flash overlays and stuff - NOT just video) flash needs readback access to the rendered canvas.
Apple's APIs don't provide this - and neither does microsoft directx for that matter - but nvidia and ati drivers do under windows...

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Originally Posted by Singh400

Because of my hatred for Apple, I'm backing Adobe. GO ADOBE!!

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I have to agree with this statement, I too am no fan of Apple. While I disagree and am aware with Adobe's lack of support, my hatred for Apple is just that high. :)

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Originally Posted by TheAnimus

But it is also worth saying that my Z series (which weighs 30grams more than an air, but has a better screen, CPU, SSD, Blu-Ray, biometrics......) does loose a whole hour of battery life, bringing it to about 6.5 hours when surfing with flash turned on.

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The cheapest Z series that Google comes up with starts at £1600+ - is it one of those?

No I went for the 4x RAID of SSDs, one of the top end CPUs and pushed the price more towards 2.8k

My point is that its more the software been able to offload even to the slower of the two hybrid graphics, that as a class of a device been light and portable, it has higher power draining components and will just render the web better, it manages little change in battery life.