News - Ford predicts the demise of the in-car CD player

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Originally Posted by Moby-Dick

Had it in my fiesta :)
and the JVC Double Din Unit in the stagea does most of that too :)

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Is that some kind of special option in the Feestie, or was it a manufacturer-supplied?

Reason I ask is that we're hoping to change our 52 plate Feestie for a newer (approved used) model, and if the new ones have this kind of audio tech, then my (teenage) daughter is going to be very impressed.

Spud1: thanks for the tip on the A1, I like Audi's (had an old style Coupe back in the 80/90's and it was a superb bit of kit), but the A1 is a bit out of my/our price range at the moment. :'(

People still use CDs?

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Originally Posted by kasavien

It's no longer illegal :)

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Since when? Unless this has changed very recently, it's still illegal. It might have never resulted in legal action, but it's still technically illegal in the UK.

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Would you be willing to trade USB ports or cloud connectivity for your in-car CD player?

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Cloud connectivity? No.

USB/audio in from an MP3 player, memory card, etc? Yes, definitely.

Personally, I see no technical problem with that, and car environments are far from ideal for high fidelity audio anyway. I'm quite happy with the sound output from digitised files, be they (years ago) MiniDisc, or more recently, a good MP3 player ..... and that's through a sound system in the car that cost me close to three grand.

But personally, I will not pay for a subscription service for the car, be it 3G or whatever. Not now, not ever.

I was quite disappointed when my new company van came with no socket for my mp3 player, but some kind of slit in the dashboard. Apparently people used to put some kind of circular object in there. Seriously, no 3.5mm socket in 2010? What were they thinking? I had to get one of those fugly FM kludges. I went and looked in a car bits shop and there was a similarly disappointing array of radios with slits but no usb or card sockets and nothing about playing FLAC. I suppose at least they weren't all tape, so we have moved on since cars of the 70s if not into the 21st century.

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Originally Posted by Saracen

(It's no longer illegal) Since when? Unless this has changed very recently, it's still illegal. It might have never resulted in legal action, but it's still technically illegal in the UK.

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100% correct - way back in 2006 we had:

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BPI chairman Peter Jamieson said: "Traditionally the recording industry has turned a blind eye to private copying and has used the strength of the law to pursue commercial pirates. "We believe that we now need to make a clear and public distinction between copying for your own use and copying for dissemination to third parties and make it unequivocally clear to the consumer that if they copy their CDs for their own private use in order to move the music from format to format we will not pursue them."

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(http://www.macworld.co.uk/digitallif...m?newsid=14870)
But yes, if you do that you are - technically speaking - breaching copyright (I guess - not a lawyer). Although, the Hargreaves report in May of this year did suggest that the UK needs a formal "format shifting" provision granted. Although that's just a report, and apparently we're a good while away from any change in the law.

Personally speaking (and apologies that this is slightly off topic) the sooner that this comes about the better. I've no problem with the BPI coming down hard on big-league filesharers and especially "commercial" piracy, but conversely the legal sanction to move the music I've bought to whatever storage format I want to listen to it would be excellent. Would having this "right" mean the end to those last few DRM-"protected" content providers? I do hope so! :D

Sorry to continue off topic.

All your hopes and dreams may come true, and I hope so because then this argument can be laid to rest.

http://www.betanews.com/article/UK-f...gal/1312394295

Whoops never mind I just found Hexus's post. I'll have a read there

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=31323

And the forum discussion .... here

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Originally Posted by crossy

100% correct - way back in 2006 we had:
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Indeed. And in addition to that BPI statement, we had very explicit recommendations to make format shifting (with some limitations) legal, in the Gowers review, which was largely the thinking behind the Digital Economy Act .... and the format shifting proposals (like para's 3.29 and 4.73) were left out.

Just because 'Hargreaves' recommends it (again) doesn't necessarily mean it'll see daylight as legislation. I hope it does, but we'll have to wait and see. Meanwhile, people will continue to ignore the current law on this point, as they've been doing in their millions, for decades.

As 'Gowers' pointed out, the mere fact that such personal copyright being illegal is seen as illegitimate and unjustified, and hence ignored, by so many undermines those uses of copyright law that are legitimate and do restrain industry ... such as widespread "free" downloading of illicit content. If most people hold copyright law in contempt and regard parts of it as unjustified and unenforceable, and unenforced, they're likely to extend that to the rest of it too.

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Originally Posted by crossy

Is that some kind of special option in the Feestie, or was it a manufacturer-supplied?

Reason I ask is that we're hoping to change our 52 plate Feestie for a newer (approved used) model, and if the new ones have this kind of audio tech, then my (teenage) daughter is going to be very impressed.

Spud1: thanks for the tip on the A1, I like Audi's (had an old style Coupe back in the 80/90's and it was a superb bit of kit), but the A1 is a bit out of my/our price range at the moment. :'(

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Apologies for the late reply - in my 59 plate it was a factory option ( I think it was part of the "tech pack" ) - bluetooth , usb & voice control - the latter of which is never used !

Nowadays everybody is linked to the new perspective of technology.I admit that I'm one of them.And such a deal today in terms of high-tech formulas are the Ford highlights of their SYNC system.And not only that,MyFord Touch, the cutting-edge touchscreen interface in new Ford automobiles, will soon get a facelift, notes the Detroit Free Press. Sources suggest that grievances that the old system was not fast enough and cluttered prompted the update. Current owners of a MyFord Touch-equipped Ford vehicle will be able to update free of charge.
This is the article source guys: MyFord Touch upgrades to appear in 2013 models