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    News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    EA and Activision yet to sign up, but 100 titles will be available at launch.
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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    Potentially this could be a success, could work out cheaper for people that buy loads of games every year. Only major downside is the state of broadband in a lot of UK areas. Streaming the required amount of data on slower connections is going to really downgrade the quality of graphics. Lucky if I get 1.5 Mb speeds where I live at the best of times. Streaming something like Splinter Cell or Assassins Creed for example is really going to be poor as the connection speed required to get the data in quickly enough for high quality visuals just isnt there.

    Its ok for people that live close to a BT exchange but a few mile away and the speed is extremely poor due to BT's archaic infrastructure and wiring that in some cases date back to the 50's if not longer. Then you have Virgin media which isnt available everywhere in the country so not everyone is going to benefit from their fibre connections.

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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    And, with throttling, even VM wouldn't be ideal for this. Only way it would have a chance of working is if they set up some sort of peering agreement with ISPs and ISPs offer this un-capped. They are (or were) claiming low latency compared to normal gaming - well yes, between the game servers because they are sitting next to each other but did no-one there consider sending big packets (i.e. the HD video stream) have a much higher latency over the same connection than a small packet used in normal online gaming?

    OnLive was meant to be released years ago, they've been plagued with said problems and been working on it. It would be too much of a loss to just scrap it so it's better for them to just release it as it is and hope enough people use it for long enough to repay the money they've wasted...

    Edit: Oh and 'no big downloads' is a bit of a fib.

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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    It depends on the technology but with Windows 2008 and its RDS services with Remote FX, watching hd videos on a remote desktop is possible and the download rates are not that high. I know that Citrix and its HDX connections offer the same thing.

    I guess it does depend on the amount of gaming and the bandwidth caps of the UK ISP's but I cant see this being any worse than downloading games in stream for example, as long as the gameplay lengths are not too long or stupid.

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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    Latency and frame rate still applies though, I mean I know console gamers are used to ~30fps but quite a few games are borderline uncomfortable, especially shooters. And remote desktop over a LAN isn't the same as trying to stream HD video at a decent frame rate with a bearable amount of latency (imagine 100ms input lag!) over dozens of hops over the net. I'm not saying it's impossible, rather it's been naively designed on a LAN and might not work as well as they'd hoped.

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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    I fully agree. Latency will be the major issue I think. FPS is an issues but the technology exists to help with that.

    The other item with be QoS on home connections. Imagine gaming through this and then someone else starts to watch Iplayer or downloads a film or album.

    Guess its wait and see until it comes out.

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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    Sounds like far too much trouble to be bothered with (latency, speed restrictions, throttling, bandwidth limiting, fair usage small print, etc etc).

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    Re: News - OnLive cloud gaming service launches September 22

    Sounds like it will have untold problems to me especially with UK ISPs but i wouldn't mind giving it a try all the same you never know its taken them that long to get it working maybe they've already foreseen all the issues we envisage I doubt it but we can hope.

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