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    News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    The speculation about who, if anyone, will buy the mobile platform is focusing on Samsung.
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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Doesn't Samsung already have BADA? OTH, if they wanted to buy the WebOS division not showing much initial interest might lead to a lower price.

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Doesn't Samsung already have BADA? OTH, if they wanted to buy the WebOS division not showing much initial interest might lead to a lower price.
    Yeah, so maybe webOS would become the premium offering in a two-tier strategy.

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Of course, webOS is a rather more interesting proposition now than it was a couple of weeks ago, given the hugely inflated install base following the Touchpad fire sale...

    Nothing like a quick game of "pin the OS on the mobile OEM", is there!

    As to BADA, it's already tagged as the low-end platform in a two-tier strategy. The question (for me, at least) is whether webOS will end up being a consumer platofrm, therefore targetting Android / iOS / arguably WP7, or if a new owner would try to up the productivity / business side, pushing it more into competition with RIM. Let's be honest, none of the existing leading mobile OSs are particularly enterprise / productivity friendly, and a cunning OEM could open up a huge market in business mobile with a couple of good headline apps and some nifty enterprise integration...

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Hmm, notice that while Samsung have said no to buying HP-PSG, they haven't said they're not interested in the business by another means - like a joint-venture or partnership. I mean, come-on, is anyone seriously saying that Samsung wouldn't like to suddenly get a leadership position in that market? The HP press statement did say that outright sale of PSG was merely one of the options they were looking at.

    Getting back to webOS, what about LG - they make phones too and, as far as I remember, although they've got a couple of good Android devices, they don't have something to go against Bada (Bing?). Maybe webOS would be a good purchase - especially at a Touchpad-like "fire sale" price? Failing that, there was an interesting post here http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/sa...-android-38064 which says:
    The South Korean government has urged Samsung to move away from its current dependency on Google’s Android operating system for its smartphones and tablets, amid a continuing international patent dispute with Apple over Samsung’s tablet devices.
    South Korea called on Samsung and LG Electronics to join a government-backed consortium aimed at developing a home-grown mobile OS. The move comes in the wake of Google’s acquisition of Motorola Mobility, making Google a direct competitor to Samsung and LG in mobile hardware.
    and it occurs to me that a Korean consortium (LG, Samsung, govt) buying webOS to form the basis of "Kr.OS" (Korea.OS) would be a smart move - most of the donkey work has been done, and all those Pre2/Pre3/Touchpad owners are a pre-made user base.

    PS, typo time "Samsung CEO and Geosung Choi" - I'm assuming that Mr Choi is CEO in which case the 'and' isn't needed.

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    I think Samsung are considering this. Considering that Google have now brought into Motorola and all that hardware, Samsung may feel that they can go it alone with their own high end OS...

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Wonder where that would leave HTC? With Windows in bed with Nokia, Google buying moto, and potentially Samsung acquiring webOS, that'd leave HTC relying a little too much on the goodwill of its competitors, no?

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Am I missing something or does that statement only mention HP-PSG, and doesn't explicitly say "we have no interest in WebOS"? I know that it comes under the remit of HP-PSG, but there is nothing to stop Samsung picking up WebOS as a platform and taking on the associated teams..

    Especially since they hired Raymond Wah recently...

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Am I missing something or does that statement only mention HP-PSG, and doesn't explicitly say "we have no interest in WebOS"? I know that it comes under the remit of HP-PSG, but there is nothing to stop Samsung picking up WebOS as a platform and taking on the associated teams..

    Especially since they hired Raymond Wah recently...
    From the piece: "But neither statement addressed webOS, which definitely leaves that possibility open."

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott B View Post
    From the piece: "But neither statement addressed webOS, which definitely leaves that possibility open."
    Indeed, the article title just confused me though as it states that Sammy are not interested in WebOS, but couldn't find something to confirm that :-)

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Indeed, the article title just confused me though as it states that Sammy are not interested in WebOS, but couldn't find something to confirm that :-)
    Good point, in retrospect I should have phrased that headline differently. I blame jet-lag

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Wonder where that would leave HTC? With Windows in bed with Nokia, Google buying moto, and potentially Samsung acquiring webOS, that'd leave HTC relying a little too much on the goodwill of its competitors, no?
    I can't believe Google are going to invest too heavily in handset production with Motorola... seems too much risk of developing an equivalent rather than an alternative to iOS.

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    Re: News - Samsung insists it’s not interested in webOS, fails to convince

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Let's be honest, none of the existing leading mobile OSs are particularly enterprise / productivity friendly, and a cunning OEM could open up a huge market in business mobile with a couple of good headline apps and some nifty enterprise integration...
    That was exactly the line that webOS was being pushed for - at least in the docs I saw, they were talking about "seamless integration with Exchange", centrally set app policies, organization-specific app repositories (so you can only install "approved" apps on your Pre3/Touchpad) etc. I wonder what became of all that.

    Oh, and I'm with snootyjim - I can't see Google being too deeply involved with Motorola. I'm in agreement with the commentators who've theorized that access to Moto's patents (to defend Android?) was probably the main reason for the purchase.

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