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    News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    The software giant has announced Samsung will pay it royalties for every Android device.
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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    The interesting part of this is that it appears microsoft is more worried about fighting Android than iOS. Looks like they are trying all they can do to slow its market penetration but I can't help but feel its a little late now.

    Also you've got to wonder if they'd make more money as patient troll than OS developer now...
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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    If windows 8 sells as fast as widonws 7 did then they`ll be making money hand over fist - since launch MS have sold over 400 million licences of windows 7

    http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011...products/pf3l/

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    To me that potentially reads as 'Lets all gang up on Apple'

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    The interesting part of this is that it appears microsoft is more worried about fighting Android than iOS. Looks like they are trying all they can do to slow its market penetration but I can't help but feel its a little late now.

    Also you've got to wonder if they'd make more money as patient troll than OS developer now...
    I dont think its anything to do with fighting Android or iOS, Microsoft will fit into its own market simply by having office etc on the WP7 devices, granted you can get things than can read/write office apps but theres nothing quite the same as actual office.

    The way I see it is Android is for geek, iOS for people that dont know better and MS will pick up the business side that drops from Blackberry now they are falling behind..

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddAussie View Post
    To me that potentially reads as 'Lets all gang up on Apple'
    I think your reading it wrong. Microsoft and Apple are both scared of the speed at which android is increasing its market share so they are attacking it from both sides in whatever way they can. A clever albiet dirty move from microsoft, sounds like they are making it easier for OEMs to use windows mobile and more difficult for them to keep the prices on android handsets competitive.

    This isnt good for the consumers IMO.

    Edit: i love the image on the hexus homepage for this story
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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    It's also of note, that Microsoft has never disclosed which patents Linux supposedly violates, they've never contacted the respective developers of the software which supposedly infringes on their IP, and they've never asserted any of their claims in a lawsuit. I'm just stunned that Linux integrators are taking their crap seriously. Especially Android integrators. Why hasn't Google headed this nonsense off yet?

    This free lunch they're getting is a complete joke.
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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    One thing I don't understand about this, (other than why the heck Samsung did it, and what the offending patents were - other than that FAT32 one which seems to catch everyone out), is whether this'll effect the case that Apple have against Samsung. Is this decision a precedent that Apple could use - e.g. "the defendant has already freely acknowledged that their products violate other IP" - I dearly hope not.
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    Edit: i love the image on the hexus homepage for this story
    Yep me too - reminds me of:
    Dr. Evil: ****. Oh hell, let's just do what we always do. Hijack some nuclear weapons and hold the world hostage. Yeah? Good! Gentlemen, it has come to my attention that a breakaway Russian Republic called Kreplachistan will be transferring a nuclear warhead to the United Nations in a few days. Here's the plan. We get the warhead and we hold the world ransom for... ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
    Number Two: Don't you think we should ask for *more* than a million dollars? A million dollars isn't exactly a lot of money these days. Virtucon alone makes over 9 billion dollars a year!
    Dr. Evil: Really? That's a lot of money.
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    Dr. Evil: Okay then, we hold the world ransom for...
    Dr. Evil: One... Hundred... BILLION DOLLARS!
    Is this how Microsoft's legal team decide damages...?
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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddAussie View Post
    To me that potentially reads as 'Lets all gang up on Apple'
    Only themselves to blame through. The was a patant cease fire between firms in the interest of product development right up until Apple fired the first salvo... you reap what you sow.

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    The one to watch will be Nokia surely. Will MS be willing to wade in with their patent portfolio to protect their strategic partner?
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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    The one to watch will be Nokia surely. Will MS be willing to wade in with their patent portfolio to protect their strategic partner?
    Nokia has resolved disputes with Qualcomm and Apple and is not an Android OEM. It seems to be in the clear. Nokia also has a sh*t load of its own mobile patents, of course.

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    Seems to be a marked difference in that MS agree to licence IP, it's accepted by other party and therefore they don't both end up in court. Samsung is more than capable of fighting it's corner (witness Apple) so is this anything more than a simple business transaction? After all, this happens all the time. Is the news here that's it's the big evil MS?


    As for Apple - I quite agree that they've provoked just about everybody in a market they're relatively new to and that ultimately they'll reap what they sow in not playing ball with their competitors. Have they more or less forced competitors to band together against them? Absolutely.

    BTW this was far more amusing:

    Google says "This is the same tactic we’ve seen time and again from Microsoft. Failing to succeed in the smartphone market, they are resorting to legal measures to extort profit from others’ achievements and hinder the pace of innovation. We remain focused on building new technology and supporting Android partners."

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    More interesting - and possibly a little worrying for MS - is how many mobile OEMs see enough future and profit in their Android handset line up to make it worth them paying a little side-hander to Microsoft to keep using it.

    The only reason Samsung could possibly have agreed to this is that it's a lot cheaper than trying to mire the whole patent war up in court for the next five years, which suggests that a) the pay off is pretty small, and b) they feel it's going to be outweighed by the profits they'll turn from selling Android handsets in the future...

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    Re: News - Microsoft gets its pound of Android flesh from Samsung

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott B View Post
    Nokia has resolved disputes with Qualcomm and Apple and is not an Android OEM. It seems to be in the clear. Nokia also has a sh*t load of its own mobile patents, of course.
    Ah I couldn't recall if they'd resolved them or not!
    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    More interesting - and possibly a little worrying for MS - is how many mobile OEMs see enough future and profit in their Android handset line up to make it worth them paying a little side-hander to Microsoft to keep using it.
    Why future?

    If anything a licensing fee is normally the opposite, a "do it know whilst we roll our own" type thing. People buy something expensive to get the market, then become more efficient.
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