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    News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    PC growth is slow, but not for Lenovo.
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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    What ever happened to quality over quantity? These results are presented as a direct correlation to being the best PC maker in the world when that is blatantly false. Shipping massive amounts of computers doesn't mean they are necessarily of the best quality or last the longest, two pieces of information which are far more important in the equation of being the best PC maker in the world.

    It's disturbing that very few people realize this or the fact that the market has distorted things so badly that these correlations are accepted as a given.

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    Quote Originally Posted by ExHail View Post
    These results are presented as a direct correlation to being the best PC maker in the world when that is blatantly false.
    Where?

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    Quote Originally Posted by ExHail View Post
    What ever happened to quality over quantity? These results are presented as a direct correlation to being the best PC maker in the world when that is blatantly false. Shipping massive amounts of computers doesn't mean they are necessarily of the best quality or last the longest, two pieces of information which are far more important in the equation of being the best PC maker in the world.
    Partially true - the vendors listed aren't the only ones guilty of turning out a lot of trash, and I fail to see the "best PC maker in the world" claim in the article. It does surprise me to see Asus on there - I know they ship a lot of laptops, but I can't remember the last time I saw an Asus desktop. And yes, I know they do ship a shedload of components - mainly because my PC's tend to use a majority of them.

    I've had a couple of Acer's and they've been pretty flimsy (and the lack of service manuals etc really hacks me off), a couple of Dell's which have conversely all been darn good. The last Leonovo I bought (for a relative) was pretty solid - even though it was a "budget" model. I've got an Asus tablet - does that count? - which is good.

    And of course, I'm honour-bound to state that all HP gear is just superb and you'd have to be a complete idiot to buy anything else.

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott B View Post
    Where?
    I apologize for not giving an adequate frame of reference for that statement. It wasn't in reference to a particular statement in the article but rather the general consensus within markets that shipping more means being better.

    The fact that there are few statistical assessments of PC vendor's quality is the key indicator of the distorted view point I was referring to, not specifically the author's but rather the industry as a whole. The focus for statistical analysis seems to be quantity which is sad.

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    Quote Originally Posted by ExHail View Post
    I apologize for not giving an adequate frame of reference for that statement. It wasn't in reference to a particular statement in the article but rather the general consensus within markets that shipping more means being better.

    The fact that there are few statistical assessments of PC vendor's quality is the key indicator of the distorted view point I was referring to, not specifically the author's but rather the industry as a whole. The focus for statistical analysis seems to be quantity which is sad.
    Fair points, and Acer is a classic example of the perils of chasing volume market share too aggressively. But surely statistical assessments are by definition quantitative, and they make no claims about the relative quality of the products - only their popularity.

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    @Scott B

    Statistical measurements have limits, they are mainly quantitative but can also use more than the bare minimum information. For example it would be nice to find out how many of these shipments get returned, what time-frame the returns take on average and how often a machine gets replaced because it has stopped working. Not the easiest of things to do but well within our capabilities at the moment.

    Fair enough you don't see claims of quality based on this information but it certainly is implied when companies think it is better to ship greater volume. For me being better shouldn't be restricted to such a narrow set of information.

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    Didn't realise Lenovo were such a large company with that much of a market share. Acer need to up there game. More competitive pricing hopefully.

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    Re: News - Lenovo becomes world’s second biggest PC vendor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gitch28 View Post
    Didn't realise Lenovo were such a large company with that much of a market share. Acer need to up there game. More competitive pricing hopefully.
    Acer definitely need to "pull up their socks" - although I'd argue that they really need to focus more on quality than pricing - mainly because I've always found their pricing to be pretty competitive.

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