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    News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Includes both ADSL and VDSL support for all your BT Infinity needs.
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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    very nice, but £200!!!

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I think I would go for this if Infinity was ever available to me.

    (/me grumbles something about being in the country, doesn't expect sympathy, it was my choice)

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Quote Originally Posted by blokeinkent View Post
    very nice, but £200!!!
    No different to pricing of previous Draytek models.

    IMO for a rock solid bit of kit, certainly worth the price.

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    We use the 2820s all the time and the feature set's great (plus they talk IPSec very nicely to our Sonicwall); they really are excellent value for business-class devices. This looks VERY nice.

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    I really want one of these to connect to my FTTP connection but I was hoping DrayTek would support 802.11ac.

    Other manufacturers are already bringing out 802.11ac compatible kit; so, I wonder if this will dent sales.

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Was looking at this the other night but cant seem to find any real reviews yet. I'll probably have another look once we know whether it's good or not. (and not all Draytek kit is apparently according to some!)

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    I really want one of these to connect to my FTTP connection but I was hoping DrayTek would support 802.11ac.

    Other manufacturers are already bringing out 802.11ac compatible kit; so, I wonder if this will dent sales.
    802.11ac is a while away from mass adoption.

    £200 is a good price for what you get here, a powerful well connected device that's easier to manage via the web interface than something like Mikrotik routerOS (my personal preference).

    Draytek have a great niche in the small business and power user market.

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    802.11ac is a while away from mass adoption.

    £200 is a good price for what you get here, a powerful well connected device that's easier to manage via the web interface than something like Mikrotik routerOS (my personal preference).

    Draytek have a great niche in the small business and power user market.
    Agreed, and I rate the device. Personally, I want 802.11ac to get the most out of my 100Mbit connection.

    As I can't afford to buy one Draytek now and one when 802.11ac is supported, I'll have to hold off until the summer. Most manufacturers are rumoured to be bringing out their 802.11ac kit then.

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    You can go above 100mb with 40MHz band 802.11n...plus 20MHz band tops out around 80mb.....and on top of all that, you probably have a VM connection if you have 100mb.....and your not going to get 100mb all day from them and it's only the individual Wifi connections that max out at 80mb....not the router as a whole.
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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    You can go above 100mb with 40MHz band 802.11n...plus 20MHz band tops out around 80mb.....and on top of all that, you probably have a VM connection if you have 100mb.....and your not going to get 100mb all day from them and it's only the individual Wifi connections that max out at 80mb....not the router as a whole.
    I'm not using a VM connection. I have a FTTP package with my ISP and get download speeds in the 90-93 MBit/s range (not quite the 100 I stated) when using an ethernet cable.

    I usually use a wireless n adapter that is connected to the router at a theoretical 150Mbit/s but I rarely get download speeds in excess of 40Mbit (interference, distance, attenuation etc).
    My hope is that 802.11ac will live up to its billing and increase bandwidth between the router and adapter. This will be especially important when BT ups the service to 300Mbit/s this year.

    Anyway, I've digressed enough from the original topic. It's a lovely router and I'm sure I'll be buying one like it some time soon!

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    I thought this had been availble for a while? Its been in-stock before Christmas as I've been tactically eyeing it up for a while, just waiting on finances. Its also been on their UK website since at least November. I guess a 'launch' doesnt mean 'release' but seems an odd time to do it.

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    I'm not using a VM connection. I have a FTTP package with my ISP and get download speeds in the 90-93 MBit/s range (not quite the 100 I stated) when using an ethernet cable.

    I usually use a wireless n adapter that is connected to the router at a theoretical 150Mbit/s but I rarely get download speeds in excess of 40Mbit (interference, distance, attenuation etc).
    My hope is that 802.11ac will live up to its billing and increase bandwidth between the router and adapter. This will be especially important when BT ups the service to 300Mbit/s this year.

    Anyway, I've digressed enough from the original topic. It's a lovely router and I'm sure I'll be buying one like it some time soon!
    The Draytek 2820 can do over 100Mbit IP throughput on the wireless. i.e. around 12 Mbyte/sec
    What you need is a wireless receiver that's got 2 antennas on it. Mine are Edimax 300 Mbit USB jobbies. Through 2 walls it's still doing 80 MBit. That's with at least 5 other wireless networks from neighbouring houses.
    The 150 Mbit 11n devices have 1 antenna, the 300 Mbit devices have 2. Theoretically 802.11n can do 600 Mbit is you use the 5GHz band simultaneously. That would translate to 200 Mbit real world throughput but I haven't seen any devices that use both bands at once unfortunately.

    You could get a 2850 - not a 2850n as they are cheaper and buy an 802.11ac Access point.
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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    I have had 3 draytek products over the years most recent is a 2820 and a 120. The 2820 is fantastic but the 120 died after about 12 months
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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    I use Drayteks on all the connections which I'm linked with - so home, office, friends etc...

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    Re: News - DrayTek launches flagship Vigor 2850 router

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    The Draytek 2820 can do over 100Mbit IP throughput on the wireless. i.e. around 12 Mbyte/sec
    What you need is a wireless receiver that's got 2 antennas on it. Mine are Edimax 300 Mbit USB jobbies. Through 2 walls it's still doing 80 MBit. That's with at least 5 other wireless networks from neighbouring houses.
    The 150 Mbit 11n devices have 1 antenna, the 300 Mbit devices have 2. Theoretically 802.11n can do 600 Mbit is you use the 5GHz band simultaneously. That would translate to 200 Mbit real world throughput but I haven't seen any devices that use both bands at once unfortunately.

    You could get a 2850 - not a 2850n as they are cheaper and buy an 802.11ac Access point.
    That's a couple of interesting ideas. I'll look into it as I would like to get a new router sooner rather than later. Thanks!

    On your other point, the Netgear N900 (WNDR4500) claims to simultaneously use both bands with a theoretical throughput of 900 MBit/s.
    I have no idea how it performs in the real world though.

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