Read more.Arrival of Intel's next-generation processor pushed back to June 2012.
Read more.Arrival of Intel's next-generation processor pushed back to June 2012.
People were doubting me when I suggested this was the case before. I was right it was down to 22NM issues.
Does it also have anything to do with tri-gate transistors? I guess the two go hand-in-hand.
Well, some shrinks have been a lot simpler than others. Down at the sizes we're at now though, we have to put more work in to achieve the shrink, so it's getting interesting. It makes it extremely hard for the first adopters to nail it on the first tape.
Probably, but then remember Intel followed a different strategy with 32NM. They released the tiny pipecleaner part,ie,the CPU section of the Core i3 and the larger part released was the super expensive and relatively low volume six core Core i7 900 series CPUs.
With Ivy Bridge their whole consumer range is moving over to 22NM.
If you look at previous Intel statements they said that 22NM processors would be shipping in late 2011:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...roduction.html
But what is hilarious,is people were jumping to the conclusion that it was down to AMD,that Intel was delaying Ivy Bridge(if you have a look around on the internet). Considering that Sandy Bridge was pulled forward in release date,there was no reason to think that this was the case. Moreover,Intel has taken yonks to get SB-E released in the six core form let alone the full fat eight core form,as it is a very big CPU. That was on a mature 32NM process. If Intel has process issues, than it is not surprising others are also having issues too.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 27-02-2012 at 01:34 PM.
$%uck this.. I sold off my 2500k config just because I was nearly sure Ivy was due to be out in April. Bugger.
So is this everything then or just official confirmation backing up previous statements about delayed OEM shipments?
Advantage Trinity, for our summer pennies?
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for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
I am still edging towards OEM only.....
The article even says:
Mr Maloney told the Financial Times that the start of sales of machines equipped with Ivy Bridge – the 22nm processor set to succeed Sandy Bridge in notebooks this year – had been pushed back from April. “I think maybe it’s June now,” he said.
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http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012022301_Launch_schedule_of_Ivy_Bridge_processors.html
This seems to indicate that it's only the mobile chips that are affected....
Call my cynical but...
"Speaking to The Financial Times, Intel executive vice president Sean Maloney implied that the delay was caused by the complexities of Ivy Bridge's 22nm fabrication process."
Yeah...I don't believe that for one second. Why push out your best when your current competitor can't offer up anything to beat your last line of CPUs?
If AMD bring out anything that threatens Intel watch how quick this fabrication issue is resolved.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
Its hard to say whether that was added as discriptor by the article author,but since DIY computer stores require less quantities of CPUs at launch, I suspect you will find enough Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs IMHO. The desktop Core i3 IB CPUs will launch sometime later after the Core i5 CPUs if you look at the roadmaps(about June) and there was noise these were meant to launch earlier(could be a load of manure).
Here is the article:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/c3c3c2b6-6...#axzz1nXzncJ00
Remember he was talking to the Financial Times. Also the article states they should start shipping in Q2 meaning anytime between April to late May.Originally Posted by Intel Corporation Executive Vice President Sean Maloney
Also, Intel itself mentioned 22NM processors were meant to ship late last year:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...roduction.html
Anandtech even mentioned the same last year too. OEM sales means large volume sales.Originally Posted by Paul Otellini, chief executive of Intel, at the Intel Developer Forum Fall 2010.
Desktops sales to DIY computer parts shops are small fry compared to large OEM orders and hence no doubt these would be fine.
I suspect Apple will be the first OEM to get IB CPUs IMHO even at the expense of larger rivals(in laptops and desktops).
Intel launched Sandy Bridge ahead of schedule and this was even with the previous Intel range of Core i3,Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs. That was with whatever AMD had planned for that year six to nine months away.
Like Llano and Brazos which have improved AMD market share in laptops, an area which they could not compete in any meaningful way previously. It is their desktop sales which are declining,which is not surprising.
The main improvements in IB are power consumption and graphics,which would be of great importance for laptops! Wait a second....!
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 27-02-2012 at 07:50 PM.
Yeah. The source article says:
In his first interview to discuss Intel’s business in China, Mr Maloney told the Financial Times that the start of sales of machines equipped with Ivy Bridge – the 22nm processor set to succeed Sandy Bridge in notebooks this year – had been pushed back from April. “I think maybe it’s June now,” he said.“We don’t comment on rumors or speculation, nor do we comment on specific ramp rates and customer communications. We remain on track for our spring 2012 launch, in line with previous guidance,” the company said.
It would make sense if it were only notebooks - they seem to follow behind the desktop counterpart usually due to the lower power requirements.
I do wish people would read articles and cross reference them before posting opinion.... Not that I'm not guilty of it on several counts
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