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Have they fixed shutting down with a mouse yet? Finding the magical spot that bought down the top menu was so frustrating I gave up on the dev preview and haven't been back since!
I tried the previous preview version just a couple of days ago... for five minutes... then quit.
But I spend 99% of my time in Linux, only firing up a Win 7 VM if I really need to run PowerPoint.
If you thought Ubuntu's Unity interface was annoying (I've kind of got used to it), then wait until you've tried Win 8 without a touchscreen.
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Unity is a dream to use in comparison with Windows 8. Even a touch screen for massive desktop displays won't make the interface any better to use, it still utilises way too much desktop space unnecessarily. Putting designs meant for small 5' displays onto big 24' displays makes me think they are crazy.Originally Posted by Steve
I can't say I'm impressed with Win8. Hate the Metro look and feel. Totally pointless on a Desktop PC as touch is merely a gimmick on most people's PCs. Also both Metro and the new Desktop theme looks flat and dull.
I've never been a fan of the ribbon toolbars and find them more trouble than their worth.
My wife uses PCs at work and ours at home, but is not a Techie by any stretch of the imagination and she says she hates the new look and feel too!
All MS, etc. keep showing off are the Tablet/phone style 'Apps', but what about the 'Serious' users?
What are the advantages for those of use who actually 'work' on PCs? Those of us who use Programs like Photoshop, 3D Studio Max, Adobe Premiere, Adobe After Effects, Sony Soundforge, Autodesk AutoCAD, Bespoke software managing huge (1 Million+) databases of customer details, etc., etc.?
To me Win8 seems like MS trying to get into the gimmick sector of Tablets and Smart Phones. The province of Twitter, and Facebook, of amateur photography and listening to music. But they seem to have neglet the majority of users who actually use very heavy duty software to actually work... Remember work MS? It's the thing you do between Tweeting your mates, and taking stupid pictures!
My wife works for the council and they don't allow access to Twitter, Facebook or online shopping sites from ANY of their PCs. They use several different bespoke programs that all have to be running at once and she has to switch between them all the time. Their email accounts block ALL pictures and emails that contain 'dodgy' words or links. Also they (the Council) don't allow the staff to do anything other than use the set software (the terminals have no disc drives or accessable USB ports, etc). Several other people we know have all said their companies are the same and getting more and more restrictive to both reduce downtime, maintance requests and non-work related use! They wouyld never allow them to use Windows 8 in a million years!
Oh and none of them have ever used a touchscreen in work, and hate the ones used in shops, etc.
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Been running it since consumer preview, no different to windows 7 really if you install vistart. Few nice multi monitor additions.
I wonder if Windows 8 will be an epic fail.... Seems to be shaping up to a fail.... Windows 7 works perfectly. Windows 8 brings nothing to the table that people need or really care about.
Jesus, Microsoft's sound editors need to lay off the loudness dial.
Windows 8 forte (for techies) is the under the hood improvements, from a reduced memory footprint, more responsive OS, improved performance on 2D and 3D scenarios through the new WDDM, better multi-monitor support and not much more. Unfortunately, what's being peddled all over is the visual side of the OS, namely the apparently non optional touch nonsense. But I honestly believe kernel optimizations while retaining similar functionality to Windows 7 are enough to warrant upgrading, as long as techies remember to install the classic start menu once Windows 8 is installed.
That's not much of a recommendation - "hey, add some software and this new (expensive?) doohickey will work just the same as the one you've already got".
Not getting at you - but if that's the "value proposition" for Windows8 then I'm definitely going to "pass".
Career status: still enjoying my new career in DevOps, but it's keeping me busy...
Can't uninstall the store? It's the only new thing you can't get rid of... It's even worse than IE. At least you can uninstall that...
This was mentioned on another forum:That's not much of a recommendation - "hey, add some software and this new (expensive?) doohickey will work just the same as the one you've already got".
Not getting at you - but if that's the "value proposition" for Windows8 then I'm definitely going to "pass".
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...6&postcount=60
It looks like MS is might lock out things like vistart.
If you're listening to people then why are you f***ing removing the start button? Or any hacks to get it back?
It seems like Microsoft has gone "ALL IN" with Metro and is not liking any attempt to get rid of it. I would be happy to use W8 as long as I can install my own start menu like Start8 from Stardock or Start Menu7.
This also confirms my suspicion that Microsoft want to lock people in because if they bypass the Metro side of things they have no need for their store or stupid apps.
Is there any source to that Start Menu thing? A post by someone on OCUK saying they 'think' they remember reading it is hardly confirmation. It's stuff like that which causes silly rumours like the 'no Flash in IE10 Metro' (what they actually said was 'no plug-ins') or 'Nokia aren't developing any more versions of Symbian' (they internally renamed 'Carla' to 'Belle FP1'). Pointless getting worked up over stuff that someone/some people on the Internet may or may not have pulled out of his/her collective ass(es).
On the other bit, listening to people is just that. It's collating opinion and using that as part of the decision-making process. Many changes to Windows 8 have been made off the back of user-feedback. It would seem that the new 'Start Menu' is key to the Windows 8/Metro design, while the corners thing seems to be a way to maintain UI consistency between touch and non-touch devices.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/31/30...y-code-removal
"Microsoft appears to be taking steps to remove legacy code from its Windows 8 operating system that will prevent modifications and hacks to re-enable the Start button and Start Menu. Windows watcher Paul Thurrott reports that the company has been "furiously ripping out" legacy code in Windows 8 recently that lets third parties bring back the Start button, Start Menu, and other legacy parts of the desktop interface. Thurrott claims that several well-known UI hacks that enabled the Start Button in the Consumer Preview do not work on the Release Preview.
Despite a growing debate over Metro on desktop PCs, Microsoft doesn't appear to be willing to offer a choice of traditional desktop or Metro with its upcoming Windows 8 release, opting to continue to fuse the pair together. Thurrott claims there will not be an option to boot directly into the desktop for business or power users, and that Windows Server 12 will also boot into Metro. Microsoft's approach will anger some who prefer the traditional desktop over the new fullscreen Metro world, but the focus is on convincing developers to build Metro style apps. The Windows 8 Release Preview will debut today, where we're expecting to see some improvements for multi monitor setups and tweaks to some of the core Metro style applications, but Microsoft has already revealed that it plans to drop the Aero UI before RTM so there's clearly room for additional changes before the operating system ships later this year."
Its all a ploy to force people to develope Metro apps only,as MS can push these into the app store and make a cut out of it. TBH,its not even the flipping start menu loss which I find annoying,its the inefficient use of space on larger monitors,and even though I find the RP a bit better,the desktop experience is still meh.
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