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    News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Good increase from 525 million back in February.
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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    And still Microsoft still hasn't got the message yet.............
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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    And still Microsoft still hasn't got the message yet.............
    Which message? Please don't be about to say "They should stick with Windows 7 and not release Windows 8 at least until it looks/works like Windows 7" because that would be stupid.

    Nobody will ever need more than 640KB...

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonj1611 View Post
    And still Microsoft still hasn't got the message yet.............
    It seems that Windows 7 is now being supported until 2020,even before its replacement has been released. It indicates important people in MS,do consider that Windows 7 will probably still be widely used in a number of commercial and consumer markets,especially with its record sales figures so late into its lifespan,despite its replacement being only a few months away.

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Which message? Please don't be about to say "They should stick with Windows 7 and not release Windows 8 at least until it looks/works like Windows 7" because that would be stupid.

    Nobody will ever need more than 640KB...
    Well there were quite a few things I could say but won't bother now, already it seems its stupid to have an opinion.
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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Which message? Please don't be about to say "They should stick with Windows 7 and not release Windows 8 at least until it looks/works like Windows 7" because that would be stupid.
    No, that would be sane. Only a complete moron would force a product on a market which clearly doesn't want it.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Nobody will ever need more than 640KB...
    Windows 8 is 640KB.
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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Which message? Please don't be about to say "They should stick with Windows 7 and not release Windows 8 at least until it looks/works like Windows 7" because that would be stupid.
    No, that would be sane. Only a complete moron would force a product on a market which clearly doesn't want it.
    Except that, from what's been seen so far, it will probably be really good on tablets and the like, which is probably much more their target market considering the work they've put into the Metro interface.

    Besides, they're not going to physically threaten you to upgrade to Windows 8 - think of all the bad PR which would come from that

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    I'm going to give the release preview a try on my desktop, just out of curiosity. I'm hoping it's usable because I've read they've done a lot of work to make it smaller and faster. But unless it's changed a lot since the last beta release I tried, I can't see myself using windows 8 properly.

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    The RP is better than the CP,but still for desktop use,I consider Windows 7 better. It will be interesting to see the retail version as there are more changes to the UI.

    Here is a list of Windows 8 keyboard shortcuts:

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4589...tips-non-touch

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    How many of those were volunteers?
    And how many had no choice of what came with their hardware?

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Valinor View Post
    Except that, from what's been seen so far, it will probably be really good on tablets and the like, which is probably much more their target market considering the work they've put into the Metro interface.
    Uhh... The target market for Windows is PC use. Tablets are not PCs. Attempts to turn the PC into a tablet have failed, not because of the software, but because it's not a paradigm which enhances PC use, because PC use is a paradigm unto itself. The market has repeatedly and clearly said, thanks, but no thanks. Make it an option, sure, but make it mandatory? No, that's just retarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valinor View Post
    Besides, they're not going to physically threaten you to upgrade to Windows 8 - think of all the bad PR which would come from that
    You're missing the point. It's not one of 'zomg M$ is going to force me to use win8 or they'll shoot my dog!', it's one of 'Microsoft is losing the plot, they're the biggest PC software vendor on the market, wtf am I going to do if they carry on with this brain damage?'

    Valve's response has been clear, getting onto OS X and Linux platforms which have yet to be infested with this stupidity.
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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Yes, Microsoft should forget about releasing new versions of their operating system, let Google and Apple have the entire fast-growing tablet market to themselves, and instead focus on appeasing a minority of supposed "enthusiasts" terrified of change, who no doubt complained in the run up to every version of Windows prior to this as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    No, that would be sane. Only a complete moron would force a product on a market which clearly doesn't want it.
    I didn't realise Steven Sinofsky was planning to come round to your house after the release of Windows 8, put a gun to your head and force you to buy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Uhh... The target market for Windows is PC use.
    Obviously that's not the case this time round. Microsoft decide what platforms Windows is targeted at, not you.

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Tablets are not PCs. Attempts to turn the PC into a tablet have failed, not because of the software, but because it's not a paradigm which enhances PC use, because PC use is a paradigm unto itself.
    What the hell are you talking about? Who cares about the definition of a PC, get out of your bubble and look at how tablets are flying off the shelves in increasing numbers. Tablets have operating systems, Microsoft core business is making operating systems. Do the maths.

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    It seems that Windows 7 is now being supported until 2020,even before its replacement has been released.
    Yay, so no real reason to "upgrade".
    Quote Originally Posted by Valinor View Post
    Except that, from what's been seen so far, it will probably be really good on tablets and the like, which is probably much more their target market considering the work they've put into the Metro interface. Besides, they're not going to physically threaten you to upgrade to Windows 8 - think of all the bad PR which would come from that
    Hmm, what would worry me is that MS seem to be "betting the farm" that we're moving to a tablet based computing environment. Look at the (admittedly unrepresentative) selection of folks on Hexus and you'll see a lot that either don't like the idea of losing the efficiency of a keyboard/mouse combo or don't like the compromises that'll have to be made to fit their computer into that little-bigger-than-A4 form factor.

    And I know that there's other touch devices than tablets, but seriously - apart from all-in-one's you don't see a lot of touchscreen monitors out there.

    As to MS forcing folks to upgrade (or rather not forcing them to upgrade) you're right. However, I'm willing to bet that we'll start seeing games that "recommend" the version of DirectX that comes with Win8, so if you want that superb PC gaming experience then you'll be "encouraged" to get that upgrade. Similarly, there's bound to be applications that "work best with Windows 8" - I'm thinking particularly of some kind of sync feature to phones perhaps - in which case there's another example of pressure being applied to upgrade.
    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Which message? Please don't be about to say "They should stick with Windows 7 and not release Windows 8 at least until it looks/works like Windows 7" because that would be stupid.
    First off, I'd be interested to hear WHY you think that stupid? Secondly, Jonj1611's got a point - people (myself included) have been generally complementary about the Windows7 UI. However, you're no doubt aware of the chorus of disapproval regarding the Windows8 UI - a lot of it being given here. So on one hand you've got a well received UI on Windows7 and a "hated" one on Windows8 - in which case I for one fail to see why suggesting that Windows8 should have received an improved Windows7 UI is a "stupid" idea.

    That said, I suspect that all the (continuing) grousing about evident deficiencies in the Windows 8 UI will come to naught, since it'll follow the usual Microsoft "innovation" pattern - namely: rejection, refusal, acceptance, affection. First we'll hate it, then refuse to upgrade, then grudgingly accept that it's a "done deal" and try and make the best of it, before finally coming around to their way of thinking. Last example of this was the (infamous?) Office 2007 ribbon debacle - although I still hate it, but have now progressed to the "acceptance" stage.

    Is it too early to start lobbying Microsoft for a touchless option for Windows 9 - seeing as this seems to be the preferred option for the Windows 8 refuseniks?

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Malphas View Post
    Yes, Microsoft should forget about releasing new versions of their operating system, let Google and Apple have the entire fast-growing tablet market to themselves, and instead focus on appeasing a minority of supposed "enthusiasts" terrified of change, who no doubt complained in the run up to every version of Windows prior to this as well.
    How many Tablet PCs have sold since 2009?

    It's not 'enthusiasts' who're terrified of change, they're most likely to adopt stupid gimmicks. It's the market which is saying 'not interested'.
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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    How many Tablet PCs have sold since 2009?
    Lots. Again you're missing the point though, it's not the total number of sales that's important, it's the fact that in a couple of years we've went from more or less zero sales of tablets to a significant market, expected to continue to grow at a similar rate of knots. Meanwhile the traditional desktop PC market reached saturation point years ago.

    For this year alone, with PC sales flat, tablet sales are expected to double to 120 million units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    It's not 'enthusiasts' who're terrified of change, they're most likely to adopt stupid gimmicks. It's the market which is saying 'not interested'.
    Yeah, right. The market is showing increasing demand for touchscreens and simplified user interfaces like Android and iOS. The only people complaining about Windows 8 are people like you on tech forums, the average consumer hasn't even heard of Windows 8 yet, and their first experience with it wont be until they purchase a Windows 8 powered device.

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    Re: News - Windows 7 hits 600 million sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Malphas View Post
    Lots.
    Oh wow, "lots" eh? Yeah, that's a great basis for throwing PC users overboard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malphas View Post
    Again you're missing the point though, it's not the total number of sales that's important
    Yes it is, it's absolutely important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malphas View Post
    it's the fact that in a couple of years we've went from more or less zero sales of tablets to a significant market, expected to continue to grow at a similar rate of knots.
    Nobody, anywhere, is saying that Microsoft shouldn't try to make a tablet OS. They're just saying that nuking your entire user base, who have made you the massive success you are, is just brain damaged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malphas View Post
    Meanwhile the traditional desktop PC market reached saturation point years ago.
    That's because PC sales have already reached 600 MILLION since 2009, and most of them are *at least* as pricey as tablets. And that doesn't even cover pre-2009 sales, which in themselves have been somewhere beyond a billion over a period of 20 years. The PC market may not be growing (or rather the growth rate isn't growing), but it still continues to be a healthy and continuous cash cow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malphas View Post
    Yeah, right. The market is showing increasing demand for touchscreens and simplified user interfaces like Android and iOS. The only people complaining about Windows 8 are people like you on tech forums, the average consumer hasn't even heard of Windows 8 yet, and their first experience with it wont be until they purchase a Windows 8 powered device.
    People like me are people who buy and recommend things the average consumer buys. And as I've already pointed out, the tablet PC market has been completely pathetic, so they're 'complaining' about it, as well.
    Last edited by aidanjt; 06-06-2012 at 04:56 PM.
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