Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 56

Thread: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Rumour says only cheaper OEM and upgrade versions from Microsoft.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Now 100% Apple free cheesemp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Near the New forest
    Posts
    2,948
    Thanks
    354
    Thanked
    255 times in 173 posts
    • cheesemp's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS TUF x570-plus
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 3600
      • Memory:
      • 16gb Corsair RGB ram
      • Storage:
      • 256Gb NVMe + 500Gb TcSunbow SDD (cheap for games only)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • RX 480 8Gb Nitro+ OC (with auto OC to above 580 speeds!)
      • PSU:
      • Cooler Master MWE 750 bronze
      • Case:
      • Gamemax f15m
      • Operating System:
      • Win 11
      • Monitor(s):
      • 32" QHD AOC Q3279VWF
      • Internet:
      • FTTC ~35Mb

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Is it just me or is Microsoft attempting to be Apple more and more these days....
    Trust

    Laptop : Dell Inspiron 1545 with Ryzen 5500u, 16gb and 256 NVMe, Windows 11.

  3. #3
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Bolton
    Posts
    45
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    4 times in 4 posts
    • ShavedApe's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Crosshair V Forumula
      • CPU:
      • AMD FX 8150 @ 4.6
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Memory Vengeance Blue 16GB DDR3 1600 Mhz CAS 9
      • Storage:
      • 1x Corsair Force GT 120 GB(OS), 1x Cruccial M4 128GB(games) 3 TB Seagates(games/everything else)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD7970 GHZ Edition
      • PSU:
      • Antec True Power 750W
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Haf X
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2420T 120 hz
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 120MBit

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    Is it just me or is Microsoft attempting to be Apple more and more these days....
    If you cant beat em copy em works for just about everything else why not OS lol

  4. #4
    King of the Juice Platinum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Chesterfield
    Posts
    3,769
    Thanks
    713
    Thanked
    89 times in 74 posts
    • Platinum's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X99 Deluxue
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 5930k @ 4GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32gb Crucial 2400MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256gb Samsung SP941, 1tb MX500 Crucial SSD, 240gb Intel 730 SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 Fury OC
      • PSU:
      • 750 Watt Corsair HX
      • Case:
      • Corsiar 750D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2408WFP
      • Internet:
      • 18Mb

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Oh great so if I were to buy Windows 8 and wanted a fresh install and don't want the hassle of a OEM licence being null and void every upgrade then I would have to install Windows 7 then do the upgrade?

    MS have lost the plot.
    Salazaar : <Touching wood as I write this...>


  5. #5
    Not a good person scaryjim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Gateshead
    Posts
    15,196
    Thanks
    1,231
    Thanked
    2,291 times in 1,874 posts
    • scaryjim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Dell Inspiron
      • CPU:
      • Core i5 8250U
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4GB DDR4 2666
      • Storage:
      • 128GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon R5 230
      • PSU:
      • Battery/Dell brick
      • Case:
      • Dell Inspiron 5570
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 15" 1080p laptop panel

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    ... if I were to buy Windows 8 and wanted a fresh install and don't want the hassle of a OEM licence being null and void every upgrade ...
    No evidence of that yet. No evidence that the retail version is going, just rumour. And no information at all on how that will impact on licensing and upgrades. You can upgrade quite a lot under an OEM license already; it's possible that if they ditch retail editions they'll loosen the EULA on OEM editions in terms of how much you can upgrade before having to buy a new copy...

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    158
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    7 times in 7 posts

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    well i think its a step in the right direction!

  7. #7
    King of the Juice Platinum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Chesterfield
    Posts
    3,769
    Thanks
    713
    Thanked
    89 times in 74 posts
    • Platinum's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X99 Deluxue
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 5930k @ 4GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32gb Crucial 2400MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256gb Samsung SP941, 1tb MX500 Crucial SSD, 240gb Intel 730 SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 Fury OC
      • PSU:
      • 750 Watt Corsair HX
      • Case:
      • Corsiar 750D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2408WFP
      • Internet:
      • 18Mb

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Does seem like MS are trying to kill off the PC...
    Salazaar : <Touching wood as I write this...>


  8. #8
    King of the Juice Platinum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Chesterfield
    Posts
    3,769
    Thanks
    713
    Thanked
    89 times in 74 posts
    • Platinum's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X99 Deluxue
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 5930k @ 4GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32gb Crucial 2400MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256gb Samsung SP941, 1tb MX500 Crucial SSD, 240gb Intel 730 SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 Fury OC
      • PSU:
      • 750 Watt Corsair HX
      • Case:
      • Corsiar 750D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2408WFP
      • Internet:
      • 18Mb

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    So any idea how to buy a full copy without buying hardware?
    Salazaar : <Touching wood as I write this...>


  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Kingdom of Fife (Scotland)
    Posts
    4,991
    Thanks
    393
    Thanked
    220 times in 190 posts
    • crossy's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Sabertooth X99
      • CPU:
      • Intel 5830k / Noctua NH-D15
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Samsung 850Pro NVMe, 1TB Samsung 850EVO SSD, 1TB Seagate SSHD, 2TB WD Green, 8TB Seagate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix GTX970OC
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX750 (modular)
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster HAF932 (with wheels)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64bit, Ubuntu 16.04LTS
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG Flattron W2361V
      • Internet:
      • VirginMedia 200Mb

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Warpy1 View Post
    well i think its a step in the right direction!
    How? Seriously, other than reduction in SKU's to track, exactly what advantage do you see for this (rumoured!) move?

    Me, on the other hand, see's the problem for enthusiasts who don't want to go through the nausea of holding onto an "old" Windows7 install disk, just so you can license a fresh Windows8 install. "Oh, but they should be using the cheaper OEM SKU" you cry - fine, except there's some restrictions on how you can use an OEM license that makes it a poor choice for an enthusiast.

    Specifically, remember that you're only allowed a certain number of hardware changes. After that, you're adjudged to be "abusing" the license and need to buy another. I've certainly heard of people who've done a pretty major refresh and had activation denied.

    Also don't forget the folks that perhaps want to run Windows8 in a VM, or BootCamp (for those Mac folks). I'm not convinced that you can install in a VM other than with a full release - and I'm sure my Windows7Pro license specifically excludes me from reinstalling into a VM.

    If the rumour is true, then it's a god-damned boneheaded move, and racks up another couple of "Fail Points" for Windows8 as far as I'm concerned.

    Career status: still enjoying my new career in DevOps, but it's keeping me busy...

  10. Received thanks from:

    Platinum (13-07-2012)

  11. #10
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    75
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    Oh great so if I were to buy Windows 8 and wanted a fresh install and don't want the hassle of a OEM licence being null and void every upgrade then I would have to install Windows 7 then do the upgrade?

    MS have lost the plot.
    You can install an OEM version of Windows multiple times on the same PC. I've done it with Windows 7 Professional and I've never even had to call Microsoft to activate it (even after replacing components). If this turns out to be true I don't see it as bad thing since the full retail versions of Windows were always grossly overpriced.
    A man must have code -Bunk

  12. #11
    Senior Member watercooled's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    11,478
    Thanks
    1,541
    Thanked
    1,029 times in 872 posts

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    OEM versions are locked to the motherboard, so it's money down the drain when you upgrade, unless you can convince MS your motherboard failed and you cant get one of exactly the same model. Yes, you can upgrade other components, but never the motherboard. With the retail version, you can change what you want within reason, worst case you phone the freephone automated activation number which takes a couple of minutes. There is NO UPSIDE to this move if it's true, unless they change what you can do with the license.

  13. Received thanks from:

    Platinum (13-07-2012)

  14. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    343
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked
    9 times in 7 posts

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    I think people are misunderstanding this, I think they just aren't going differente between OEM and Retail, everyone bought OEM anyways and this just means there won't be an expensive retail version.

  15. #13
    King of the Juice Platinum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Chesterfield
    Posts
    3,769
    Thanks
    713
    Thanked
    89 times in 74 posts
    • Platinum's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X99 Deluxue
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 5930k @ 4GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32gb Crucial 2400MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256gb Samsung SP941, 1tb MX500 Crucial SSD, 240gb Intel 730 SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 Fury OC
      • PSU:
      • 750 Watt Corsair HX
      • Case:
      • Corsiar 750D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2408WFP
      • Internet:
      • 18Mb

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    OEM versions are locked to the motherboard, so it's money down the drain when you upgrade, unless you can convince MS your motherboard failed and you cant get one of exactly the same model. Yes, you can upgrade other components, but never the motherboard. With the retail version, you can change what you want within reason, worst case you phone the freephone automated activation number which takes a couple of minutes. There is NO UPSIDE to this move if it's true, unless they change what you can do with the license.
    This not looking good for the enthusiast
    Salazaar : <Touching wood as I write this...>


  16. #14
    Senior Member watercooled's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    11,478
    Thanks
    1,541
    Thanked
    1,029 times in 872 posts

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by brasco View Post
    I think people are misunderstanding this, I think they just aren't going differente between OEM and Retail, everyone bought OEM anyways and this just means there won't be an expensive retail version.
    Well I don't; as I said, the OEM version is good for ONE motherboard. I made the mistake of buying OEM Vista 64, but I sold the motherboard a while back so that's £100 or so worth of OS I can't use again. The licenses for OEM and retail are different. lets just hope they do away with the old motherboard lock if they're scrapping the retail version.

  17. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    343
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked
    9 times in 7 posts

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Orly!? Ooops I've activated my win 7 pro on 3 now!

  18. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    154
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    7 times in 7 posts

    Re: News - There will be no “full retail version” of Windows 8 on sale

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    Is it just me or is Microsoft attempting to be Apple more and more these days....
    I don't see why they shouldn't: if one company does something clearly better, the other companies should copy that, for the benefit of their customers.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •