News - Apple vs Samsung - the battle continues - Samsung's turn

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Could Samsung have the DiamondTouch necessary to pull-off a victory?

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Looks pretty compelling to me.

Although I`m sure Apple lawyers will find some way to twist this. maybe diamondtouch used a worm hole and stole apples ideas and took them to the past.


Is there anyone left in america who actually thinks the USPTO is actually a Worthwhile THing anymore?

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Originally Posted by kopite

Is there anyone left in america who actually thinks the USPTO is actually a Worthwhile THing anymore?

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Apple? :mrgreen:

I want to see were LG will go with the Prada - it was the worlds first touchscreen phone (widely available) and won phone of the year in 2006




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LG_KE850_Prada_Hauptmen%C3%BC.jpg

they really have a strong case to sue...

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Originally Posted by kopite

Looks pretty compelling to me. Although I`m sure Apple lawyers will find some way to twist this. maybe diamondtouch used a worm hole and stole apples ideas and took them to the past.

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I'm actually slightly confused - the buzz on the forums etc is that there's plenty of "prior art" out there - in which case surely it's not hard to find? :undecided
And as to DiamondTouch - I'm sure it'll come out that they copied a previously unknown/unheard of Apple prototype that predates it by a year or two. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by kopite

Is there anyone left in america who actually thinks the USPTO is actually a Worthwhile THing anymore?

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I'm sure Apple's legal team give thanks every day that it exists - it certainly gives them a good living. Oh, and don't forget that without the USPTO there wouldn't be a patent troll "industry" keeping hard working 'mer'can lawyers in champagne and caviar. :mad:

As far as I'm concerned a win for Apple is a defeat for the consumer and the industry as a whole. And if Samsung "win" then I wouldn't necessarily count that as a victory, on the basis that it's introduced a FUD factor into design and also diverted Samsung's resources and attentions off of their product lines.

Agreed, apart from the respective companies there are no winners amongst the consumer here - oh and of course the lawyers who don't care who wins as long as they get paid. Obviously if apple win that would be an absolutely horrendous outcome. The only thing this case has highlighted is that the legal system is utterly corrupt and lacks any shred of common sense - if there was it would have been immediately thrown out of court. The fact that legally apple can be taking people to court for making rectagular devices with colourful rounded icons when they weren't even the first to do so is absurd. All this is giving a pedestal for each company to one up each other in the public domain and waste time and money. Order them both to pay $1billion in to a pot and give it to companies that are actually looking at innovative products rather than wasting resources trying to defend a design that I personally think is outdated and boring anyway :S Innovate don't litigate!

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Originally Posted by crossy

I'm actually slightly confused - the buzz on the forums etc is that there's plenty of "prior art" out there - in which case surely it's not hard to find? :undecided
And as to DiamondTouch - I'm sure it'll come out that they copied a previously unknown/unheard of Apple prototype that predates it by a year or two. :rolleyes:

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Unlike the Sony image, the diamond touch was an actual products used in the world, so the prototype is kinda irrelevant

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Originally Posted by kopite

Although I`m sure Apple lawyers will find some way to twist this. maybe diamondtouch used a worm hole and stole apples ideas and took them to the past.

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I think Apple will pull the old Doc Brown went to the future and stole their ideas story....

I think Samsung will loose regardless of how much they prove Apple is in the wrong, fact - California courts are corrupt.

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I think Samsung will loose regardless of how much they prove Apple is in the wrong, fact - California courts are corrupt.

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This is what i think will happen also, The judge and the jury will rule in Apple`s favor, no matter how compelling Samsungs evidence is.

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Originally Posted by Brewster0101

I think Samsung will loose regardless of how much they prove Apple is in the wrong, fact - California courts are corrupt.

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What? You mean that you think Apple will use "home advantage" - plucky American company versus evil overseas conglomerate?

Yep, me too.

The other part I don't get is why Apple think that their software patents are more valuable than Samsung's hardware ones - since it says in the article that Samsung granting access to their patent portfolio would have only got them a reduction in the cost of Apple's fees, rather than a like-for-like swap

Good luck Sammy! Apple need a good smack to bring them to their senses!

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Originally Posted by crossy

The other part I don't get is why Apple think that their software patents are more valuable than Samsung's hardware ones

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Clutching at straws perhaps. This is a company that has faced closure in the past and looks sets to avoid that possibility ever again - at any cost.