Features - QOTW: Apple vs. Samsung - you be the judge

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I'd simply ban software patents. End of.

Imagine if we were having these patent wars 20 years ago: Web servers, mail servers, GUI's and even a mouse cursor could be the case of the day.

We will look back on these current cases in 20 years and laugh at their stupidity. That or it will have held us back so much that we'll be crying.

Don't worry,our glorious EU politicians are following the excellent sample set by their American mates,by trying to make software patents valid in Europe.

[Agent]

Don't worry,our glorious EU politicians are following the excellent sample set by their American mates,by trying to make software patents valid in Europe.

Thanks to lobbying by the major players.

I'm firmly against any form of software patents. They are simply too restrictive in any form to anyone that's not a multi-million / billion pound company.

Little Jimmy Limited gets sued by one of the big guys and it's pretty much game over instantly, over what could be the most ridiculous of things. The accused might not even be able to afford the defence as we're seeing regularly in the US.

This isn't protecting innovation, it's stifling it at the source.

[marshalex]

I think it should be taken back to the playground and whoever comes up with the best "your mum" joke is the winner!

[pctech2012]

Hold both companies in contempt of court for nothing more than a territorial pi$$ing contest tell Apple it can't copyright a rectangle and to grow up. f

Totally agree, the Director/General Manager of the company's division in the country where the case was brought should also be arrested and slung in jail for 12 months and the company fined the costs of doing that as it'll teach them not to waste the court's time.

Steve Jobs behaved like a spoilt brat and while what happened to him was very sad and I wouldn't wish on anyone I did think a change in leadership at Apple might have led to an end to this nonsense or had he recovered it might have made him rethink his approach.

Only winners in a legal fight are the lawyers.

[nat327]

I totally agreed that software patent should be banned. Before you can even create something new you'd have to look everywhere to make sure it (or part of it) is not already patented by someone. And even when you do, from what I see, they'd find anything even remotely similar to prove you wrong in the court.
Instead of spending all those time finding out what you can't do/use/implement in your creation. Wouldn't it be far easier to just not have to think about it.

Copyright is in place, it works well enough on its own. Patenting certain function/feature is just wrong.

[cazman1227]

its nothing more tha apple acting like a sore loser they are scared the world will buy Samsung over there boring over priced stuff.

[Dareos]

I'm a pretty big Samsung fan tbh, but I hate to think that this alone clouds my judgement where Apple is concerned. I remember the Apple II system, 15 or so of them in a classroom in my school never used. and I hated the fact that they weren't used. I liked the original Apple Mac, which was far more concise in its appearance and pretty much its use than the corresponding 286's and A3000's/Archimedes that schools were buying to replace the BBC Micro and Master systems that were in play at the time. I really do want Apple as a company to do well, to innovate and create new products that wow the world like the ipod did. To take a product and make it a marketable experience, to improve upon their original designs where it becomes a phone, then a tablet.




What I have been seeing tho, is a company desperate to claim every vestige of original thinking as their own, to claim past advances in technology as their own and a company willing to bend the US legal system to their own ends, which is pretty much despicable.


I heard someplace, and the story is apocryphal, that when Apple tried to sue MS over the WIMP system, that Apple claimed that Bill Gates stole the idea from Apple and he responded "I think you'll find we both stole it from Xerox". It probably never actually happened, urban myth and all, but the sentiment is true.

[bobfoc]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...-court-filing/

Looks like it's gotten a little more stupid.

S3 and Note now underfire.

Funny how it is only the US that is even considering these frivolous lawsuits.

Next thing we will see is someone suing a company for their apple pie being too hot..... Wait a minute....

[mercyground]

Simple. invalidate ALL of apples patents till its proved they didnt steal them.

Samsung should make apple suffer. TBH apple were RETARDS for going up against a primary level supplier and for being patent bullies.

The sooner Apple gets slapped hard the better.

[Tpyo]

Not exactly original but I laughed when I was shown this.


re: the recent escalation with the request to ban the SIII, note and various SII models - going back to my original post, this is why I wish some of the Samsung patents had been upheld. With the prospect of mutually assured destruction (with neither Apple nor Samsung allowed to sell phones/tablets in the US), they'd pretty much have to sit down and talk.

[Tpyo]

Samsung should make apple suffer. TBH apple were RETARDS for going up against a primary level supplier and for being patent bullies.

Short-term Samsung could hold up component supply and hurt Apple, yes. However, the supply contract is almost certainly very lucrative for them, being a contract may hold penalties if it is not fulfilled, and Apple would just award it to a different supplier/suppliers in future. More effective would be a (patent-based, assuming this is actually possible) export ban on said vital hardware components, enforced in S Korea/China/Taiwan/anywhere that is a major part of the supply chain or the home of a potential alternative supplier. Problem is, if there is an alternative supplier with capacity, it'd be hurting you far more than them.

[jim]

Personally I would dismantle and destroy Apple.

So it's probably good that I'm not a judge.

[pctech2012]

The reason that the US is entertaining these cases is because lawyers bring in lots of taxes.

[Willzzz]

They should make these minor patents come under FRAND terms just like with standards essential patents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasona...tory_licensing

[kevinc6784]

Just typical apple bullying, backed up by bias us court and patent system.
I just hope the consumers realize what their attempting to do, and that is to give you the consumer less choice and higher prices.
I hear sales of the S3 have gone through the roof since this decision, so maybe the consumers are voting against Apple , and their tactics.

[Loxick]

The sad thing is that this is just the start of what will be a battle of the tech titans. Google/Motorola vs Apple vs Samsung vs Other. This will just keep going until one the company is satisfied with their patent monopoly.