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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Being the owner of 2 M4's and a Kingston v200, touch wood ive never had a failing, My M4 in my rig is about 18 months old, running almost 24/7 and reads @ 505mbs now, where it was reading @ 522mbs fresh with just windows running. So to only drop about 17mbs, 60% full & 18 month old drive is great

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    People lying. *sigh*

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    I'm honestly surprised it wasn't higher. You need to remember that until Sandforce released their BSOD fix firmware (okay, mostly fixed) that the failure rate was huge. 17% is hardly unrealistic given the market share and companies that sold Sandforce based drives (OCZ and Corsair I'm thinking of).

    Call it 2/10, that's still low considering AnAndTech said "Given the extremely long discovery and fix time for this issue".

    Lots of people had issues in that time. I don't find the figures unrealistic in the slightest. The Samsung 830 wasn't really around when the SF issues were in their prime and the Crucial C300 was way more expensive.

    Don't underestimate how much better it is now. Drives are only just starting to mature in terms of reliability.
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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    I had my OCZ Vertex 2E die within a year of purchase. Now using a Crucial M4 because of its apparently stellar reputation for reliability.

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Last five years 14 SSDs on home systems not one failed.

    1x Western Digital raptors and 2x Seagate HDDs did fail.

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    I have 2 M4's now and they've been ok

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jingee View Post
    Never had any problems with my Crucial C300 64Gb, has anyone had any trouble with theirs?
    I bought a refurb C300 64GB, it died after about 6-7 months, just stopped being recognised by any BIOS or as external drive with a SATA>USB adapter.

    My 256GB M4 and the 6x 64GB M4s I installed at work are all still fine, as are 2x 40GB, 80GB and 120GB Intel 320 drives, 2x 64GB Samsung 830 (although only for 2 weeks) and a 32GB OCZ Onyx (the oldest of the lot, ~2 yrs light use in a HTPC).
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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    In 2011 I went through 4 OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSDs all because I used the sleep function of my laptop (I was told) - they simply stopped working in some kind of "panic mode" apparently. Before the 4th drive arrived I had bought a new Samsung 830 and haven't looked back since. I sold the OCZ to a friend for his gaming rig, who knew my issues but didn't use sleep anyway. Guess what - 4 months later the same again.

    NEVER EVER GOING TO BUY FROM OCZ AGAIN - telling me not to use a standard function of any laptop just because their drives can't cope shows what shoddy QA they put them through. I'll take reliability over performance any day especially with SSD. Buyer beware!

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    ... ZDNet sample size was a little small with a total vote count of 617 respondents...
    It is not little. It's laughable. Hexus starts to show dailymail symptoms.

    I have 4 OCZ drives and none of them failed so far. (4xVertex 2E, 1xRevodrive 3 x2). The Vertex 2s ended up in laptops and a portable caddy.

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by ehhhhhhh View Post
    It is not little. It's laughable. Hexus starts to show dailymail symptoms.

    I have 4 OCZ drives and none of them failed so far. (4xVertex 2E, 1xRevodrive 3 x2). The Vertex 2s ended up in laptops and a portable caddy.
    ...as laughable as the "well it hasn't happened to me so it's probably not happening" argument? Like it or not SSDs have faced both teething problems (bad firmware, early gen glitches) and longer term issues (the horrific sandforce SF-2281 controller).

    Or..

    we're all lying.



    I've seen it both ways - 1 intel gen 2 drive that was killed by intel firmware, 2 kingston drives that still work fine today, 2 dead Agility 3's (and I mean D E A D as in the bios doesn't even see the device dead) and 2 rock solid Sammy 830s. Your 2E is SF-1500 based btw.

    OCZ can kiss my wrinkly old posterior.

    OTOH we seem to finally be getting more reliability and stability - the SF-2281 is slowly leaving the market (and people are avoiding in like the plague so that's partly why) with OCZ moving on and credible alternatives like the M4 and 830 being the default choice for the wise. Intel worked hard on the firmware for their SD-2281 drive but you still see "BSOD" stuff mentioned on the web and personally, warranty or not, I can't be arsed with the up/down time all over again so that's a no-buy for me.
    I wonder how many SF-2281 drives are out there and what % of the market they represent?
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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    ...as laughable as the "well it hasn't happened to me so it's probably not happening" argument? Like it or not SSDs have faced both teething problems (bad firmware, early gen glitches) and longer term issues (the horrific sandforce SF-2281 controller).

    Or..

    we're all lying.

    No, All I'm saying is that it's not enough to draw conclusions.

    That "horrific" sandforce (2281) controller (actually 4 of them) works in my pc for more than a year without any problems (mostly 24/7).

    as always people who have/had problems are more likely to talk (whine) about it. I had more than a dozen Samsung HDDs die on me, but I'm sure there are many on this forum who find them the most reliable.

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by ehhhhhhh View Post
    No, All I'm saying is that it's not enough to draw conclusions.

    That "horrific" sandforce (2281) controller (actually 4 of them) works in my pc for more than a year without any problems (mostly 24/7).
    Sorry, I thought you said you had the Vertex 2E (SF-1500) - are these other drives you didn't mention? And i'm agreeing - 4 drives aren't enough to draw conclusions It's quite a few less than the sample of, say, this report yeah? Frankly, i'm dubious about anyone claiming that SF-2281 is in any way 'reliable' given the heap of evidence to the contrary (even in this thread).

    Quote Originally Posted by ehhhhhhh View Post
    as always people who have/had problems are more likely to talk (whine) about it. I had more than a dozen Samsung HDDs die on me, but I'm sure there are many on this forum who find them the most reliable.
    ..but they'd probably not deny they had done. To my knowledge the F series of drives have had a fair few faults in early 2TB configuration, the 1TBs were pretty rock solid and they're now not even made by Samsung (and thus reliability seems to be in question once more). They've also needed firmware updates to cope with SATA 3 ports over the years too (the wonderful mechanical clanking noise from one PC informed me right away that there was a problem).
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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Sorry, I thought you said you had the Vertex 2E (SF-1500) - are these other drives you didn't mention? And i'm agreeing - 4 drives aren't enough to draw conclusions It's quite a few less than the sample of, say, this report yeah? Frankly, i'm dubious about anyone claiming that SF-2281 is in any way 'reliable' given the heap of evidence to the contrary (even in this thread).



    ..but they'd probably not deny they had done. To my knowledge the F series of drives have had a fair few faults in early 2TB configuration, the 1TBs were pretty rock solid and they're now not even made by Samsung (and thus reliability seems to be in question once more). They've also needed firmware updates to cope with SATA 3 ports over the years too (the wonderful mechanical clanking noise from one PC informed me right away that there was a problem).
    take it easy.

    I know that Vertex 2E is older and have different controller.

    I was talking about my revodrive, which has 4 controllers ;-)

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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    OK, how bout we run our own poll.... What you reckon guys ? I can start a new thread to that effect if I get enough interest.
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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by ehhhhhhh View Post
    take it easy.

    I know that Vertex 2E is older and have different controller.

    I was talking about my revodrive, which has 4 controllers ;-)

    Yup the 4x SF 2200 controllers you mean?

    Nice drive tho.

    Quote Originally Posted by g8ina View Post
    OK, how bout we run our own poll.... What you reckon guys ? I can start a new thread to that effect if I get enough interest.
    Yup i'm in.
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    Re: News - New reliability poll shows surprising SSD failure rate

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Yup the 4x SF 2200 controllers you mean?

    Nice drive tho.
    http://www.ocztechnology.com/res/man...duct_sheet.pdf

    "SandForce® 2281 x 4"

    er?

    I think you did not note that I'm not defending OCZ, nor I say that their drives don't go wrong.
    I only said that no one can come to conclusions without evidence (e.g.: official statistics).

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