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About LinkBacksIts because Orange (soon to be EE) already have the band as part of their 3G licence. The actual 4G bands aren't being auctioned until next year so companies like O2 are being forced out of the equation.Originally Posted by Flash477
Its because Orange (soon to be EE) already have the band as part of their 3G licence. The actual 4G bands aren't being auctioned until next year so companies like O2 are being forced out of the equation.
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All of the UK networks, excluding 3, are licensed to use the 1800MHz band, and Ofcom gave the go-ahead to re-use it for 4G. However, EE has the advantage of having a larger chunk of the spectrum (two companies joined) so they can afford to mess about with the current assignments to free up room for E-UTRA (4G), the other networks can't, and 3 only have a 2100MHz license.
However, Vodafone and O2 also have 900MHz licenses, so there's talk of them considering to use that somehow.
although I can see this being short sighted, in truth people won't care and will still buy the 5 in droves because of the name...regardless of the fact they are being short changed by a vindictive nasty company who cares little about employees and customers alike
Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!
Very true; that video linked to in another thread, where someone walks around with a 4S telling people it was a 5 and people actually believed it was massively improved over the 4S proves a lot.
http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-news/2...ml#post2625105
Will someone please explain this 4G thingy to me: http://forums.hexus.net/general-mobi...4g-lte-etc.htm
As I understand, some Samsung Galaxy S3 support LTE. Do they work on all 4G enabled networks in the UK (whichever they are)?
But the Apple fans will still buy them in their millions.
TBH until I can have truly unlimited data on my contract at a sensible price then 4G or even 3G for that matter is a minor consideration. All that will happen with a faster connection is that you will reach your 1Gb limit even faster and start paying through the nose for data.
The only thing I use my data connection for on my HTC Sensation is email and apps like Google maps that need a connection. If I want to do anything serious I seek out a WiFi hotspot.
I still wouldn't buy an iPhone though. I'd miss my widgets too much.
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The existing SIII available here doesn't have a 4G radio, but the 4G version will be available very soon. The current 4G version sold in other countries supports all the 4G bands the UK plan to use, so it's safe to assume the version sold here will also support all those bands. The same applies to most (all?) of the other phones, excluding the iPhone, planned for release here.
Looking at the Wiki, there are at least 6 varieties of LTE for the SIII:
Korea/Japan: 800Mhz
Canada/US: 700, 1,700 (AWS) MHz
US: 700Mhz
US: 1900Mhz
Australia: 1,800, 2,600 MHz
UK (Google lead me to this site: http://www.zdnet.com/uk/4g-in-the-uk...u-7000001819): 900, 1800, 2100Mhz
What puzzles me is why no phones seem to support more than two frequencies, and why they even bother make one that only does 700Mhz when there is also one that does 700 and 1,700 (AWS) MHz. The iPhone 5 seems to support more frequencies per device (even though they may not be the ones required to use on all mobile service). Is there a technical (or cost) hurdle that stops companies from making a device that supports most/all frequencies?
It could be different radios used in phones for different markets (possibly due to cost), or simply that other frequencies are disabled/not advertised when not needed. Also remember that some of the US phones are CDMA (Sprint/Verizon/US cellular), not GSM, so they require different radios for 2/3G.
Looking further into it, it might be be the case that Wiki is listing the frequencies used by the carriers in some cases, rather than those supported by the radio.
Last edited by watercooled; 18-09-2012 at 05:45 PM.
Because it's more expensive to build a globally applicable multi-band phone than to design a tailored radio system per regulatory region.
Wow, put me off the iPhone 5 i just ordered!
Out of curiosity, is it $5 more expensive, or $50 more expensive.
Thinking back, earlier (modern) mobiles were often dual-bands which often meant that it's US vs rest of the world excluding Japan/Korea/the odd countries who were doing their own things.
Still, do we need to deal with this each time we move to the next big thing? :/
sometimes its not just more expensive, its larger.
that is often the deal breaker.
You get bullcrap reviewers like engadget here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/18/a...#disqus_thread
saying that the screen is 'just useable' because its so thin.
Even thou its utter crap, it shows the pressure to be thin.
Such anorex designs suffer from trying to get yet more radio circuitry in to a smaller place.
The main thing is, plenty of non-apple devices have more impressive radio sets, that work on more bands, allow 4g hd voice etc.
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