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    News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Apple wants $707 million more. Samsung wants a new trial.
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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    "A Reuters news report suggests that Apple also wants the sales ban to extend to include the best-selling Samsung Galaxy S III."

    I just have to say, that made me laugh... Apple really think a court is going to ban it's main competition from being sold, while the Samsung Galaxy S III looks nothing like an iPhone? I've never really been a fan of Apple as a company but I own an iPhone 4S because I personally prefer iOS to Android (and I'm not here to argue which is better) and also like the design of the iPhone 4/4S, but honestly, this makes me feel embarrassed I own an Apple product, because I do not support their actions what so ever.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Heres a good article showing how the jury decided on the damages, and why this might reduce the amount: http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/09/s...rrived-at.html

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by dmzda View Post
    Heres a good article showing how the jury decided on the damages, and why this might reduce the amount: http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/09/s...rrived-at.html
    I'll be honest, I read it, And never understood a flaming word of it.
    But I'll will like it if it helps to get one over on Apple.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Nerph View Post
    "A Reuters news report suggests that Apple also wants the sales ban to extend to include the best-selling Samsung Galaxy S III."

    I just have to say, that made me laugh... Apple really think a court is going to ban it's main competition from being sold, while the Samsung Galaxy S III looks nothing like an iPhone? I've never really been a fan of Apple as a company but I own an iPhone 4S because I personally prefer iOS to Android (and I'm not here to argue which is better) and also like the design of the iPhone 4/4S, but honestly, this makes me feel embarrassed I own an Apple product, because I do not support their actions what so ever.
    I too felt ashamed for owning 1 apple product, so iI went out and get myself the s3 and it's probably the greatest improvement in my life, well maybe second greatest, switching all my hard drives to ssd is slightly a greater improvement

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by dmzda View Post
    Heres a good article showing how the jury decided on the damages, and why this might reduce the amount: http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/09/s...rrived-at.html
    FossPatents is bribed anti-google. Just google/bing it.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    You wot ? You want $700mil more ? Really?

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    The age old saying comes to mind. If you can't beat them, sue them.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    I have gone off FossPatents, in an attempt to prove that Apple have not patented rounded corners he claims that Samsung infringed multiple Apple patent claims being (a) rounded corners (b) having a rectangular screen centred in device (bit like my TV then, and would you ever have the screen off centre) (c) thin bezels (again just like my TV) (d) front face substantially free of buttons (just like my TV).

    Based on this most TVs appear to infringe Apple's designs.

    Also the jury foreman's reasoning for the decision is, as has been pointed out on the web many times, simply legally and technically flawed.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    So far things have gone Appleā€™s way in the San Jose court, is it now pushing its luck too far?
    Oh I do hope so - it'd be nice if the whole sorry thing got thown out and Apple got nothing.

    Personally I find the idea that they're trying to "extend" the decision they got award verging on contempt. And - as the article's picture shows - anyone who's too stupid to be unable to distinguish an S3 from a 4S shouldn't be allowed to have either (nor matches or sharp objects either)
    Quote Originally Posted by dmzda View Post
    Heres a good article showing how the jury decided on the damages, and why this might reduce the amount: http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/09/s...rrived-at.html
    Problem with that site is that it's Florian Muller's (apologies if I've spelt his surname wrong) and Herr Muller is pretty well renowned for taking the side of big business against Free and Open-Source Software, (which makes his blog title very ironic - who said Germans have no sense of humour?). Note that even Florian is saying this is a wrong decision - in which case it's got to be pretty bad.

    Given the acknowledged faults in the original trial and now the award, I would have thought Samsung's appeal to get a retrial eminently sensible and reasonable. But I admit to a slight pro-Samsung bias since I'm an S3 owner.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Crap like this makes me hate Apple even more and i wouldn't care less if someday they totally screwed themselves and went under. I'm hoping both Samsung and HTC get their fair share from Apple over this whole LTE thing.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    They probably want the extra $700mil to pay for the LTE case

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Odeas View Post
    They probably want the extra $700mil to pay for the LTE case
    lol - so bloody true....

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    I think Samsung lawyers were cr*p, these guys didn't even have or show the samsung devices vs Iphone or ipad in their actual form to the jury, so jury could hold and see for themselves... Samsung should hire anther firm if it wants to win... the company representing samsung made so many armature mistakes, it was shocking e.g. some info could not be shown to jury bcoz it was filed to late, or wasting all their time on silly things and in end ran out of time, some samsung lawyers couldn't even identify a samsung phone from an iphone lol. I think people on the INTERNET, websites had put together a better case than samsung lawyers.

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    Re: News - Apple and Samsung both unhappy with the $1 billion verdict

    Haha. I actually wonder if these two major companies will ever give it in arguing about design and copyright protection ;D

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