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    News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    Makes markets optimistic ahead of BB10 launch time.
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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    My plan For BlackBerry

    1. Drop Black Berry OS
    This include the new OS. it has no real established market and it wont hit the critical mass it needs to sustain itself as a platform for developers.

    2. Turn all of the cool Blackberry features such as centralised device management and device encryption and push email into a middle ware for other devices.
    Charge for it and add on enterprise charging structures and large enterprises will fall over themselves to move to it. With BYOD happening in alot of companies making user device centrally manageable by installing and connecting a simple app would be very useful for alot of corps.

    3. Create Black Berry android devices with the middle ware baked into the core
    These phones would also be able to run android and blackberry apps on the same hardware make the hardware high quality with tight integration to existing blackberry infrastructure that alot of corps have. the same device would be attractive to consumers because of the existing android as well as things such as blackberry messenger and for corps the integration with existing blackberry infrastructure (that is already paid for) would make migration easy.
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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    I like the Auto on/off feature on BBs, I don't know why no-one else does this.

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    I actually have a old BB Curve 8520 as my main phone. I had a shot with Android with a Samsung Galaxy Duo and a Sony Ericson x8...

    Conclusion: IT SUCKED!

    I don't get were all the fuss is about. its a buggy software, unreliable... Both of them phone i've used crashed more in 6 months of use then my Blackberry over its 2 years...

    A friend of myne (the one how convince me using the Samsung...) has a Samsung Galaxy Xcover and the damn phone is allways rebooting for no reason, it went on to RMA and its the same, and they say that the phone has no problem...

    For me thats just unaceptable.

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    Could be you had 2 of the worst Android phones ever there...
    You say Android sucked but both of those manufacturers put their own skins on their phones, which were, well, rubbish. Later Samsungs and HTCs or pure Android (Nexus etc) seem to be much more stable. And they're not depending on a single network switch in Slough in order to work properly...

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    I'd not thought about this, and what you've said makes complete sense to to. The advantage that BB has for the corporate market is that which is gained through the BES server. License this, and change your model so that you business is centred around the server side, and then follow the market, rather than try to lead it in terms of phones themselves.

    I'm sure there's a licensing model there they can make good money doing.... We're all over the shop a the moment - some phones are BB curves/torches etc, and others have iPhones. They don't all support BES, (ie iPhone) so they have to connect using some sort of http version of outlook to the Exchange server, which is all fine and well, but very inconsistent. Can;t read your emails off line etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by alsenior View Post
    My plan For BlackBerry

    1. Drop Black Berry OS
    This include the new OS. it has no real established market and it wont hit the critical mass it needs to sustain itself as a platform for developers.

    2. Turn all of the cool Blackberry features such as centralised device management and device encryption and push email into a middle ware for other devices.
    Charge for it and add on enterprise charging structures and large enterprises will fall over themselves to move to it. With BYOD happening in alot of companies making user device centrally manageable by installing and connecting a simple app would be very useful for alot of corps.

    3. Create Black Berry android devices with the middle ware baked into the core
    These phones would also be able to run android and blackberry apps on the same hardware make the hardware high quality with tight integration to existing blackberry infrastructure that alot of corps have. the same device would be attractive to consumers because of the existing android as well as things such as blackberry messenger and for corps the integration with existing blackberry infrastructure (that is already paid for) would make migration easy.
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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    I agree with Al, RIM should do a Nokia but with Google as their partner.

    I'm sure Android could gain a lot from the BB management features, just like the WindowsPone platform is gaining a lot from Nokia's maps etc.

    I remember being impressed at the configuration options open to BB admins, right down to white listing individual numbers for calling and locking out menus etc. You could practically turn one into a two way pager or even close to a radio it was so locked down.

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    What I used to like about phones aimed at business users was the quality of the hardware. It was more durable than the consumer stuff. They lasted beyond the contracts. We need that kind of scrutiny on these devices. Even at the expense of 2-3mm extra thickness.

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    I think BlackBerry will always have a place in the market from business owners or security minded people, no matter how much governments hate it.

    BlackBerry started a downward trend after the riots, as people had used the BlackBerry phones to organize themselves under the governments prying eyes. Its as if the governments want BlackBerry dead asap and for good reason..

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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Could be you had 2 of the worst Android phones ever there...
    You say Android sucked but both of those manufacturers put their own skins on their phones, which were, well, rubbish. Later Samsungs and HTCs or pure Android (Nexus etc) seem to be much more stable. And they're not depending on a single network switch in Slough in order to work properly...
    Never the less, even skinned it should be stable. It's like saying a cheap computer is supposed to be unreliable. Not true...

    If the OS was up to the job, it would not be ruined by a stupid skin...

    And on the SE Xperia X8, i've Cyanogenmod it, not became better... nor worst for that matter... it would reboot for no aparent reason even after a couple of RMA, and on the last one, a new phone was given to me... still crap and this was the one i've cyanogenmod treated...

    i know of no one who havent experienced some kind of problem on Android (random crashes/reboots, slowdowns, functions stop working for no reason) and on some I even went to the trouble of searching for 3rd party apps... some of them had some, some didnt... but thats irrelevant... my BB has dozens of crap on it and on the 8gb sdcard (witch is full to the brink with pics, music and even movies)... and it failed to me once, after a update to the software CRUNCHSMS was interupted by my dog (pulled/chewed the USB cable during the procedure)...
    After this was solved (half hour later) it was back to awesome.

    It's a slow phone? yes, its over 2 years old
    Doesn't have has many apps has android/iphone? it doesnt... but most of them arent crap unlike these other 2...

    but is it good? YES
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    Re: News - BlackBerry maker RIM reports losses but builds cash reserves

    problem is that Blackberry's lack the features most consumers want - they should focus on enterprise only. Oh and poor you if you had an android phone that crashes...I'm on an SGS3 here and it's stable as a rock, more so than my ex wife's Curve which crashed daily, had a diabolical camera and was as fast as an arthritic sloth....
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