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About LinkBacksGot my lumia 920 a couple of weeks ago, and im loving it, best phone out right now
Got my lumia 920 a couple of weeks ago, and im loving it, best phone out right now
It depends on Microsoft's tenacity. Of course there will be space for three OS:s in the market place. I believe sharing the kernel with the rest of MS's line up is a very shrewd move. It also depends on how MS plays out its strategy. Most of what we see in online mobile phone communities are focused on the pure consumer market. One of the areas were I perceive WP has an advantage is security. Perhaps that is why the military in my country have chosen WP as their platform. So perhaps MS can play their computer penetration to leverage buy in in the corporate arena.
That said, I find it ironic that MS emulated the iPhone to such a degree that they gave up their Windows Mobile community following to Android. They had the the computer hackers and the corporate segment and gave it all up. The were also pen based devices, which MS gave up to emulate Apple. What was the total WP penetration in 2012? Samsung sold 10 million S-pen Android based units alone. It could be that Microsoft isn't fleet footed and creative enough to compete. Too much of a "follow me" strategy, perhaps?
The Nokia 808 Pureview could compete with this... If Nokia can get a WP8 based 41mp, zoom phone of the 808's caliber out the door, I'll get it.Originally Posted by cameronlite
I've tried to help kill the 'there are no apps' problem with my app, AppSwitch. It suggests replacement apps for ones you might already have on your iOS or Android phone:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/st...1-949c2c86e2a5
It's more a win for Nokia than WP but here are some photos I just took on my Lumia 920 (5:30PM) - I'd like to see another phone compete with these
A lot of those figures were from MS's limbo state prior to WP8 being released (manufacturers were stopping the production of WP7 devices but hadn't released WP8 devices) so weren't keeping up with the increasing mobile phone pool. Some polls also include markets WP hadn't been released in.
WP won't get to be number one but it will be a significant player. The Western markets are entrenched, there's too many users stuck in the ecosystems to move so you'll likely see the same market shares next year unless Apple or Google have a huge fall from grace. The big market share gains are to be made in emerging markets and as that is categorised as cheap entry level phones which Apple have stated they will not be making then it gives MS a better position to capitalise on it.
Nokia Maps is great (used for a lot of satnavs) Browser is great, IE is usually hated on by everyone (including me) but it is super fast on here, Nokia Music is awesome, unlimited free music through playlists with no ads at all!! SkyDrive is integrated well into the system and can choose to sync photos videos etc, camera on the lumia 920 is amazing, its the second best available, behind the 41MP PureView 808 also by Nokia, but on symbian
Got a Lumia 800 Windows 7 phone, loved it. Went back to Android for a while, hated it. Now on a Windows HTC 8X and love it. But I can't seem to sell the concept to friends, and this leads me to believe that Android and Apple will eventually defeat Windows phone.
Except the 808
Currently studying: Electronic Engineering and Artificial Intelligence at the University of Southampton.
Love my Nokia Lumia 800, and have done since I got it. Every app I need is now there - it took a while for The Times/Sunday Times newspapers to catch up, but they finally did!
I've been seeing more and more people with it, more and more people talking about it, and more and more people asking me about it. I think Windows Phone is going to show some good gains in 2013 - of course it's not going to shoot up, people are too invested in their existing platforms, but I think we can see a big shift.
I had an iPhone, then switched briefly to a Blackberry, and then got my Nokia. It beats both - and while I've never owned an Android device, having used them in store and been asked to help my brother setup his, my goodness that UI is confusing. I really think at the low end, where parents and the slightly older generation are looking for a cheap smartphone, they'll find Windows Phone far easier to get around than Android.
Roll on my Lumia 920, just waiting for Three or Vodafone (basically anyone but EE...) to launch it!
I'm very pleased with my HTC Trophy 7, not even considered a high end phone by any means, but it's great.
My brother is changing from Android to Windows for his next phone, I certainly hope it just gets better and better
I was a fan of the old windows os from the orange spv onwards. Have an iphone for work and did own a sony xperia s for a while but after 6 months, had to sell it and went back to windows with a HTC 8X. Dont think I will be trying android again.
Love my Nexus 4 and I am a tinkerer when it comes to phones so Android suites me greatly, I was in a shop with a mate helping him pick up a tablet but while I was there I had a brief go on a WP8 (I believe it was the lumia 920,dont quote me!) I really liked it, really smooth and lovely on the eyes and I certainly hope I can get some of that moved over to my N4
If I wanted to keep my phone stock then I am certain a Windows Phone would be for me
I think a lot depends on the native text input, I don't like this on my iPhone and like it less on my Galaxy S2, so I'll reserve judgement until I've had a chance to try this out. Also app support needs to improve too.
Tough market, but hopefully MS will stick to it for at least a couple of years to give the app market the chance to grow (and get more hardware partners). They managed to break into the console market, no small feat, so if they can't break into this market, we'll probably be stuck with a two horse race.. if that.
No one needs "500 billion apps", but some people may highly value a couple of niche apps that is particularly well developed on a particular platform. Though quantity does not guarantee quality, I'd say that the odds are increased.
Hardware wise, the 920 is lacking two features I'd ideally like: removable battery and micro SD slot. [Either that, or they fit a battery double what is usually found, and fit it with huge memory capacity]. The recent trend is not favourable though, I only hope that Samsung won't drop those from the future Galaxy.
Rather than a binary choice making you choose this or that (though you can of course choose to have neither) multiple choice is the much better for the consumer and the industry as it drives progress and innovation better. For this reason alone Windows phone and Blackberry need to survive.
Microsoft are a software company trying to get into hardware whereas Apple are a hardware company who happen to have some decent software so both come from a different base.
Convergance would seem to be the answer with seamless integration of one software package on all devices ... phone, tablet, desktop, laptop. For Apple that could hit sales being a hardware manufacturer with premium priced products for Microsoft and Google convergance/integration is less of a hit hardware wise. If Microsoft could say get to Windows 10 and its absorbed Windows phone and Android/Chrome merge then they could both be onto a winner.
There is also clear indication that not everyone is drawn to 'The Cloud' so hardware with expandability (micro sd, usb, etc) could prove vital for whoever (if) decides to keep it.
I like the look of Windows phone devices, a splash of colour amongst the ever increasing bland looking aluminium.
It works, sure. But it is all a bit mee-too. I was deeply suspicious after the appalling performance and lack of updates from phone 6 and 6.5, and the adoptors of phone 7 were kicked firmly in the goolies by phone 8.
To overcome those sort of commercial behaviours it does not need to be merely 'just as good as' what people already have, it needs to do something entirely new that no-one else has.
I must admit, with my limited exposure to it I'm very Meeeehhhhhh. But then again I think iOS is limiting and poop so what do I know
Last edited by 3dcandy; 19-01-2013 at 11:59 AM. Reason: meh!
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