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    News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Launches before and is then showcased at Computex Taipei 2013.
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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    is there any reason to buy haswell? it is built on the same tech (22nm) and has either the same TDP or a higher one (due to the IGP).

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by JSanders View Post
    is there any reason to buy haswell? it is built on the same tech (22nm) and has either the same TDP or a higher one (due to the IGP).
    If you're using a high end Sandy/Ivy bridge processor I don't see any reason to upgrade, it's at most a 17% increase in performance per clock from Ivy bridge. The one thing that has me interested though is the chief designer said it will be "an overclockers dream" in an AMA on Reddit.

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by JSanders View Post
    is there any reason to buy haswell? it is built on the same tech (22nm) and has either the same TDP or a higher one (due to the IGP).
    It goes faster

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM95 View Post
    If you're using a high end Sandy/Ivy bridge processor I don't see any reason to upgrade, it's at most a 17% increase in performance per clock from Ivy bridge. The one thing that has me interested though is the chief designer said it will be "an overclockers dream" in an AMA on Reddit.
    Shame you need to spend £165+ on average for such a CPU!!

    Perhaps,they can bring overclocking back to £100 CPUs??

    Edit!!

    BTW,where did you hear a 17% IPC improvement?? I thought it was more around 10% or thereabouts with further power reductions,so they can have a greater TDP budget for the IGP??


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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    It will likely depend on your usage and what you'd be upgrading from. Haswell uses an upgraded uArch vs IVB and adds some new instructions, so IPC should increase, but a major focus is said to be the IGP. It also brings another pointless socket upgrade, LGA1150, so you'll need a new motherboard. Either way, expect Intel and their drones to roll out their sensationalistic PR guff, and decide for yourself if it's worth it.

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    well 2nd of June cant come quick enough. I put off buying into the Ivy Bridge set up due to the heat issues.

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Shame you need to spend £165+ on average for such a CPU!!

    Perhaps,they can bring overclocking back to £100 CPUs??
    While the proof will be in the eating, the rumour is that BLCK overclocking (FSB) will be back. So that might mean at least modest OC of non-K CPUs. Unless of course Intel implement some other OC blocking for low-end CPUs.

    I for one miss the fun and value of overclockable Celerons and Pentium. Still remember the Celeron E1200 (1.6GHz) machine I built a a few years ago and it's been running at 2.4GHz (+66%) since then on a cheap mootherboard without ever crashing. My current Pentium E5300 (2.6Ghz) easily clocks to +35% with almost no effort.

    Cheap Core2 Celerons tended to overclock really well and easily: whether the die was harvested with parts fused off or where Intel uses a custom die having far less cache tends to mean far less heat too. That E1200 Celeron is nice and cool with the stock fan & heatsink which is not something commonly seen with 2500K etc.
    Last edited by kompukare; 22-01-2013 at 07:52 PM. Reason: added FSB to the BLCK bit

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    So they are focusing on onboard graphics. With memory getting faster and cheeper, why are they only going to 1600mhz.

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    While the proof will be in the eating, the rumour is that BLCK will be back. So that might mean at least modest OC of non-K CPUs. Unless of course Intel implement some other OC blocking for low-end CPUs.

    I for one miss the fun and value of overclockable Celerons and Pentium. Still remember the Celeron E1200 (1.6GHz) machine I built a a few years ago and it's been running at 2.4GHz (+66%) since then on a cheap mootherboard without ever crashing. My current Pentium E5300 (2.6Ghz) easily clocks to +35% with almost no effort.

    Cheap Core2 Celerons tended to overclock really well and easily: whether the die was harvested with parts fused off or where Intel uses a custom die having far less cache tends to mean far less heat too. That E1200 Celeron is nice and cool with the stock fan & heatsink which is not something commonly seen with 2500K etc.
    The Core2 dual cores were great overclockers - my E2180 and E4300 could hit around 3GHZ IIRC.

    I heard something about BLCK overclocking,although it would mean the low end Intel motherboards would also need to support overclocking too. Even now,nearly a year after IB launched can you only now get overclock capable motherboards for around £60.

    It really annoyed me that they ditched overclocking for the H61 and H67 chipset.

    Having said that,I suspect a highly overclockable Core i3 would eat into Core i5 sales,just as the Core i3 530 probably did.


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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    This maybe the moment to jump from my overclocked E8400! I spent £130 on this chip in Jan 2008 ish. £160-170 for a chip that will probably last another 5 years is a bargain.
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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by iranu View Post
    This maybe the moment to jump from my overclocked E8400! I spent £130 on this chip in Jan 2008 ish. £160-170 for a chip that will probably last another 5 years is a bargain.
    Plus the cost of the motherboard needed for overclocking and the cooler. £160 to £170 is not really a bargain ,when the Core i5 700 series could be had cheaper for around £140 to £150 and also overclocked well too,let alone the Q6600. The Q6600 could be had for as low as £110 delivered in 2008.

    My E4500 and Q6600 lasted over 4 years and cost me less than £150 in total. I only moved over to socket 1155 for gaming, after nearly 5 years since the motherboard started to have issues,if not I would still be probably using it now.

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    Even the Core i5 2500K was closer to £150 in 2011.
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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Two points, one is launching june, available... when? Months down the line? Second point is I wonder what this is gonna do to laptops, I've ordered a beefy 15" with a GTX 680M so I really don't give a damn about the iGPU, it'll do 2D things, but due to it being improved in this generation the TDPs are going up and looking quite scary

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by CampGareth View Post
    Two points, one is launching june, available... when? Months down the line? Second point is I wonder what this is gonna do to laptops, I've ordered a beefy 15" with a GTX 680M so I really don't give a damn about the iGPU, it'll do 2D things, but due to it being improved in this generation the TDPs are going up and looking quite scary
    Haswell has a GT3 version which has embedded RAM. They are trying to push AMD and Nvidia out of the midrange with it AFAIK.


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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    So IB gave a mere average 7-8% over SB (probably lower in real world useage as I believe the up to 10% figure banded about is dependant upon which software you used).

    And if haswell is more about the gpu than the actual cpu we're probably looking at another 7-8% so in total about ~15% increase over a SB.

    I say buy an SB now whilst you can - overclock it beyond what most IB and HW chips are going to be capable of and be happy for the next 5 years

    Come on AMD - give us that killer 'Athlon' already, i'm dying to jump ship lol

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    Re: News - Intel Haswell processors to launch on 2nd June

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Haswell has a GT3 version which has embedded RAM. They are trying to push AMD and Nvidia out of the midrange with it AFAIK.
    Eeee don't like the sound of that, badly affect the many who care about battery life in order to give the few who care about gaming a better experience? Glad I chose now to upgrade then (C2D -> IB)

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