News - Guinness world record beating HP Officejet Pro X inkjet launched

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It’s officially the fastest desktop colour printer in the world.

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Genuinely interesting and impressive IMO, will be interesting to see some reviews on this.

I really don't care about speed, I'd much rather have a printer that when I put in a new ink cartridge, print a few times it doesn't suddenly become half full the next time I use it, and run out soon after.

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Originally Posted by zarnywoop

I really don't care about speed, I'd much rather have a printer that when I put in a new ink cartridge, print a few times it doesn't suddenly become half full the next time I use it, and run out soon after.

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All you need to do is spend a bit more on the printer, usually.

If you look at the ink capacities of modern cartridges, it doesn't take long to spot that the £25 high-street printers have very small cartridges, and their office equivalents have much larger one.

Last time out, instead of a £30 all-in-one, I bought a basic HP Officejet printer that does nothing clever except ethernet networking and duplex, which cost about £80, and the inkjet cartridges last a very long time - for virtually the same price as the little ones.

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Originally Posted by zarnywoop

I really don't care about speed, I'd much rather have a printer that when I put in a new ink cartridge, print a few times it doesn't suddenly become half full the next time I use it, and run out soon after.

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Like snootyjim said, you need to look around a bit more at office printers. As with the HP here, Epson Workforce Pros are inkjet office printers (faster and cheaper than laser - seems to be the new paradigm) and their 4545 series which I use, can take their "Pyramid" cartridge rated for 3,400 sides of A4. That enough ink for you? Can find the official cartridge for about £34 so it's about 1p per page. They do CMY equivalents for colour in that size too.

For example (not nesc. cheapest you can find it):
http://www.printerbox.co.uk/t7011-black-ink-cartridge-xxl-pyramids/p2862

PS I like the look of this HP a lot! Shame about the pricetag at $700 which I can't really afford. The Epson I mentioned is around £220 just for perspective though I imagine this HP has better print quality by the looks of things.

If they include 5 year warranty on that print head I would consider buying one. If not I will continue to buy less expensive hardware. Too many ink printers fail just outside a 1 year warranty through no fault of the user.

Ran Canon inkjets for a long while but had to install a new print head every year. In the end I imported a half dozen print heads because the UK pricing on parts exceeded the price of the printer.

I don't trust that HP print head and as a replacement part it will cost $700 to replace.

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Originally Posted by zarnywoop

I really don't care about speed, I'd much rather have a printer that when I put in a new ink cartridge, print a few times it doesn't suddenly become half full the next time I use it, and run out soon after.

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Originally Posted by snootyjim

All you need to do is spend a bit more on the printer, usually. If you look at the ink capacities of modern cartridges, it doesn't take long to spot that the £25 high-street printers have very small cartridges, and their office equivalents have much larger one. Last time out, instead of a £30 all-in-one, I bought a basic HP Officejet printer that does nothing clever except ethernet networking and duplex, which cost about £80, and the inkjet cartridges last a very long time - for virtually the same price as the little ones.

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Good point snootyjim - if you're one of the folks who's HP printer uses the "364" type carts then you can actually get better price/performance by switching to the "XL" carts. These have 2x the capacity (okay, since they're the same size as the non-XL ones, the difference is solely in the fill level) but a lot of retailers sell them for less than the price of two of the non-XL ones. E.g. PC World will sell you two black 364's for £17.98, but a 364XL is £16.83 - not a huge saving, but the replacement intervals are obviously twice as long and you end up with less consumables knocking around - the latter being a good selling point for SWMBO.

Conversely Staples have the regular 364's at less than the price of 1/2 a 364XL - so it will definitely pay to be cautious when shopping.

Getting back to the article though - fast beastie! But I'd be a little concerned about those heads getting blocked - could be quite expensive to get fixed. And to be even more disloyal, I'm pretty certain that it doesn't print on CD's - something I'm starting to really miss in switching to HP from Canon.

Get a laser. Costs more upfront, saves a fortune in the longrun and actually works. Inkjets foul up / jam, go streaky, use insabely expensive inks and generally are a pain in the butt. Never seen one in my life that hasn't proven this to be true, and I've seen fleets of high - end 'workgroup' inkjets.

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Originally Posted by wasabi

Get a laser. Costs more upfront, saves a fortune in the longrun and actually works. Inkjets foul up / jam, go streaky, use insabely expensive inks and generally are a pain in the butt. Never seen one in my life that hasn't proven this to be true, and I've seen fleets of high - end 'workgroup' inkjets.

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Now are you comparing the bog standard (mono) lasers with these inkjets, or are you doing it properly and comparing colour lasers to inkjets?

I'm also going to STRONGLY argue about the "insanely" expensive inks, see Noli's comment - £5 for a ream of prints isn't expensive. And then there's the other costs, taking as an example the first ones I could find on Staples (so no tricks like company shops or 2nd user carts):

HP Officejet Pro 8100 - £65.83 v's Canon LDP5050N - £191.67
and the consumables are
HP 951XL - £18.23 v's Canon 716 - £51.04
that's for black ink/toner and both have a claimed* coverage of 2300 pages. (* and yes, I know manufacturer's coverage claims are usually pretty "creative"!)

So you end up with a more expensive initial purchase, more expensive consumbles, slower (HP is 20ppm, Canon is 8-12ppm), and less flexiblity (laser printed photos look crap, and the HP has wireless). The laser will also require a warm up time - not the case with an inkjet, a quick selftest and you're good to go. And - as the HP quote says - your inkjet will require less power - remember it doesn't need a fuser (which is a big heater).

As to the jam and streaks - I've seen expensive (£5000+) departmental lasers do that. Plus are there safe toners available, since I remember reading some (scare stories?) about a possible cancer risk? Last time I was office based I certainly remember the office manager having to fill out a COSHH assessment form for the LaserJet.

More than 1 page a second is pretty impressive for an inkjet, and it didn't shake itself to pieces in the process!

The head is a full-width stationary one, so it doesn't have to move side to side. :P

About time.

It all comes down to how frequently you print and what your usage patterns are like.