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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    the price point this will come at and running the unreal engine 4 engine without a silly specced pc looks to be good value, regardless of whats under the hud, those were some nice visuals and a sign of what is possible

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Quote Originally Posted by MattEvansC3 View Post
    Which will still put it in the ballpark of the Bobcat performance, and here's HEXUS's own report on the Bobcat's performance http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/27517...mance-figures/
    The Cat family of cores is not designed for gaming or any form of intensive workload, that's for the Dozer core family.
    Well what we have is probably 8 times faster than the PPE in the PS3's Cell, which was a high-clocked, but low IPC, in-order CPU. It's not as great as having a quad-core 4.4GHz Piledriver, but on the other hand that would have upped the cost and TDP of the system greatly. In terms of a games console it is more than adequate, if the programmers make use of all 8 cores (or however many cores Sony lets them use). Given that modern game engines and graphics libraries are becoming more and more multithreaded, it's not a major issue. It's also a given that in three years time the PS4 will look weak next to a fairly decent gaming PC, but that's how it is.

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    No doubt they didn't give specifics on the HDD size due to the fact they'll have a 'premium' console offering more space for £100 more.

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    The choice of an 8 core jaguar should be great news for owners of PD and BD as well as bringing more of a gap in gaming between i7 and i5. Maybe more cores will be coded for, which is always good when some PC games still use only 2 cores. Consoles won't hold PCs back for now

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Seems like pretty good specs to me. Surprised how much everyone is moaning. Did you all really expect to get a console that contains the parts of a £1000+ PC that from 12 months in the future, and all for ~£350?

    Also, making like-for-like comparisons about console and PC components is pretty pointless. If the system spec is nailed down, you can make all kind of optimisations that simply are not possible when programming for generalised PC hardware.

    But for me, the main point to bring home is that at least this will bring PC gaming into the current decade. No more console ports from something that's ~10 years old.

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    that's a big step over the PS3 probably a bigger step than the PS2 --> PS3

    No Cell CPU though? That looks dead in the water.
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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Wasn't one of the original functions of Steam the ability to play-as-you-download? Certainly on GldSrc games? Not trying to belittle the PS4 but consoles emulating the PC scene from a decade ago doesn't light any fires here

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Sounds very very good.
    8 cores and a AMD CPU
    A GPU which is like the HD7850 ... wow! Just look at the jump from their NVIDIA 7800GT to the ATi HD7850!
    I dont think 8GB of DDR5 is necessary. 4 GB of DDR3 would have been enough. This is surely to drive up the price ?
    Disappointed that the controller doesnt have MOVE built in.

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    GDDR5 has a massive amount more bandwidth than DDR3 - essential for games.
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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    But for me, the main point to bring home is that at least this will bring PC gaming into the current decade. No more console ports from something that's ~10 years old.
    This is true - the only real advantages to moving to x86 are potential cost reductions (due to better part availability) and the fact that it will be several orders of magnitude easier to develop for the PS4 when you come from a PC background..meaning hopefully more, higher quality games.

    The big downside is that x86 is by no means the "best" or most efficient architecture for computing - it has too many limiting factors..there is a big reason that there has been a huge shift towards RISC in recent years, and in many ways its a shame to see them move away from it. This of course then opens up comparisons between a "PC" and "PS4" in ways that most people couldn't wouldn't do before.

    So from a pure technology point of view it's not the cleverest/smartest move - but business wise is definitely is..more better quality games, simpler ports, cheaper hardware, less R&D required whilst still maintaining that key console advantage of being fixed, highly optimised hardware? That business case far outweighs any disadvantages, both for Sony and for the average consumer.

    As long as they figure out an upgrade path so that we don't all need to add yet another box under the TV (i.e: a way to play our PS3 games without re-purchasing them) they are on to a winner here I think, now that we know they are not locking games to consoles

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    now that we know they are not locking games to consoles
    They're not? That's a relief, but the first I've heard? If the next Xbox does use such draconian DRM, they've likely shot another hole in MS's remaining foot.

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    They're not? That's a relief, but the first I've heard? If the next Xbox does use such draconian DRM, they've likely shot another hole in MS's remaining foot.
    Yeah, I was corrected on that this morning by a couple of people on here - see this link:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ock-used-games

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    sorry hexus i watched all of it last night and not once did they say a date or say near x mas dont get peoples hopes up as you know there is too many xbox fanboys here

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    They said 'Holiday 2013'

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Plus, announcing in this year if they don't intend to release it for Christmas wouldn't make great marketing sense, they'd likely lose a ton of PS3 sales.

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    Re: News - Sony PlayStation 4 is powered by an 8-core AMD Jaguar processor

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_B View Post
    They said 'Holiday 2013'
    Is that the one with Judith Chalmers?

    Game are taking pre-orders now. Like I'm going to give them any cash to hold for me...

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