Re: News - Sony’s 4K movie download service will come to PlayStation 4
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Brewster0101
4K monitors will not reach the main stream consumer and if they do it is a pointless technology.
There are many review/reports from well known tech and video sources that clearly indicate that 4K has no place in the home unless you have a 60" + TV. The extra resolution over 1080p is completely wasted as the eye can't see the difference.
But there was one good argument , Passive 3D TV in 4K would benefit. As a 4K screen splitting the image into half the resolution for each eyes means passive 3D in full 1080P resolution.
Well known tech and video sources on the pay roll so people go out and buy expensive 1080p screens instead of saving, by not buying, or buying a cheaper 1080p screen. Resolution is not relative to screen size and makes me chuckle every time I read someone saying "1080p is pointless below this size, UHD is pointless this size". The only thing screen size is relative to is viewing distance which may be increased for comfort, especially for multiple viewers. Look at a 10" screen 10" away, and a 100" screen 1000" away and tell me which needs a higher resolution. You know you are not meant to be able to see individual pixels? The whole point in increasing pixel resolution is so you don't see them - not so someone can say decrease them till we can see them - not being able to see them makes it pointless? I am waiting for 1080p+ 3D but am put off by the cheap 3D monitors, low refresh rate expensive 3D TVs, and more likely to buy one of the QHD 2D monitors; though I am not rich, would like 3D and I sure wouldn't upgrade for 3D alone - I'd just never experience 3D until screens were revolutionised.
Re: News - Sony’s 4K movie download service will come to PlayStation 4
The TV manufacturers are drawing a blank on upgrade impetus, their products have long refresh cycles (I've had my TV 4+ years, no other tech has lasted that long with me) aren't as exciting as mobile phones, tablets, laptops, etc so they aren't getting Joe Public's cash. 3D is a gimmick, lacks content and looks a bit oddly unreal to many people, not to mention the silly glasses. "Smart" TVs are mostly anything but with terrible interfaces - anyone who is serious can do far better by attaching a PC, laptop or tablet to their TV, it's a lot 'smarter'. They push 4K because they want to sell more TVs, but without mass 4K content it's as doomed as 3D to be a gimmick. Lets face it most of our broadcast TV is still not even in 720p never mind anything better and it will be like this probably at least another 1, maybe 2 refresh cycles for the average consumer's TV.
I set up a quad monitor config at work this week and it dawned on me that it was equivalent to a 43" 4K TV (4x 21.5" monitors, 2x2 grid), this is monitors that someone will sit about 3-5ft away from. I couldn't see much pixellation on those screens when I was setting up. I'd say 4K is only useful if you want to sit very close to a very large screen, say you want to be really immersed in your 3D film in your tiny living room. According to this (http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Article/Ho...ould-I-Sit.php) I could be buying a 65"+ TV in my living room where I'm about 10ft from the screen, but this assumes I'm watching 1080p content, what about broadcast TV which is most of my watching? Well we all know SD will look utterly pants on a 65" TV... looking at their chart on the bottom I would then be more looking towards a 37-42", maybe up to 50" if I watch mostly from the 720p Freeview HD channels... So would a 4K TV benefit me? Hell no, I'd never get a 65"+ screen (what I'd need to buy to need 4K over 1080p) past the Mrs and even then 95% of everything I watch would look utterly crap.
Re: News - Sony’s 4K movie download service will come to PlayStation 4
I would love them to provide 100GB files with lossless audio and a decent bit rate.
The reality? Most current AVC 1080p film downloads (itunes etc) are about 5gig - times by 4 for increased resolution and you are looking at something like 20gig for a (2160p) 4k film. You can knock a third off if the PS4 does H265, but i'd be surprised given how recently that was signed off. You can guarantee audio will be Dolby Digital @ 384k or AAC in the low to mid 100s so no growth in size there.
20 gig is about an hour on an average infinity 2 line (~40meg) - given that will be sony's preference for game delivery too, expect this on day 1.
Re: News - Sony’s 4K movie download service will come to PlayStation 4
I don't think 100GB will be necessary with the new H.265 codec, here is a demo of 4k streaming at just 10 Mbps:
http://www.diginfo.tv/v/13-0015-r-en.php
4K will be a niche market this year but next year you can expect to see it go mainstream in 50+ tv's ...