News - Nokia readies aluminium bodied Lumia 920 successor “Catwalk”

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Microsoft polishing off WP Blue, starts work on next Windows Phone OS, due by Christmas.

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way to piss off your customers that have just come back to Nokia, at least wait a few more months!!

I'll be the one to ask it:

Will Blue land on all WP8 devices, or will WP8 owners get dicked like WP7 owners?

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Originally Posted by directhex

I'll be the one to ask it:

Will Blue land on all WP8 devices, or will WP8 owners get dicked like WP7 owners?

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This is the question! Had my 820 all of 10 days, so i'm desperately hoping it's the former...

That picture of Ballmer alone makes me want to stick with Android...

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Originally Posted by directhex

Will Blue land on all WP8 devices, or will WP8 owners get dicked like WP7 owners?

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Microsoft have publicly announced that what happened with WP7 phones not being updated to WP8 won't happen with WP8 phones....

Although I guess the real question is 'who trusts what Microsoft says'

I am starting to think Ubunta may wrestle market share from Microsoft when it gets traction.

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Originally Posted by directhex

I'll be the one to ask it:

Will Blue land on all WP8 devices, or will WP8 owners get dicked like WP7 owners?

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They'll get WP8.B

I'm still on the Lumia 800 and really love it, but locked into my contract for another year. Need to get a sim only contract after this. So many shiny phones.

This would be a nice phone for sure, just a lot larger than I'd like from a phone.

I'm torn between a WP8 and a Nexus 4 (or similar Android). Currently on WP7.5 HD7, which HTC have said they won't update to 7.8 which is a shame.

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Originally Posted by Wozza365

way to piss off your customers that have just come back to Nokia, at least wait a few more months!!

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Why? Is your phone suddenly going to stop working out of envy? :p

They still make beautiful handsets and I am a big fan of the current lumina looks and specs.

Unfortunate (but understandable) that they are windows only phones - this may or may not be an issue in years to come as cross system functionality becomes reality, but right now, I am comfortable with Android.

I agree with the other guys comments here about Ballmer - something about him that oozes through on every photo I have seen of him, we should not judge on appearances of course, but he worries me.

“offer a thinner version of the 920's PureView Phase 2 camera”

No thanks. It can be chunky as long as it packs the lossless zoom 41mp true Pureview of the 808.

I was thinking that about Balmer too if I'm honest.

How many people really care about thin their phone is? How about keeping it the same, and make the battery or cooling a bit better for example?

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Originally Posted by brasco

This would be a nice phone for sure, just a lot larger than I'd like from a phone.

I'm torn between a WP8 and a Nexus 4 (or similar Android). Currently on WP7.5 HD7, which HTC have said they won't update to 7.8 which is a shame.

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Not tempted to go the custom rom route... xda forums?

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Originally Posted by directhex

I'll be the one to ask it:

Will Blue land on all WP8 devices, or will WP8 owners get dicked like WP7 owners?

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The question is did they really dick 7 owners? Afterall 8 was more about supporting more hardware configurations. When targetting one or the other, its really no harder than targetting 7 and 7.1 (7.1 been the real name of 7.5, bloody marketiers!) in fact, its a hell of a lot easier.

I've found very few changes to a silverlight app between the two, in fact its only really things like network APIs that are differen't, this is why a lot of the UPNP apps didn't work on 8 to begin with, they had blocked access to certain UDP broadcast ports, forcing you to use the new API instead, which actually isn't a bad thing, I hate shared socket paradigms that are based on socket APIs rather than the more grown up API which runs over it.

Myself the only thing missing from a 7.8 device are the maps improvements, I think they should have made that available.

However I still regularly use my rather battered Samsung Omnia 7. It's normally my "local" phone and frankly it works great, the 7.8 update has allowed me to have the same layout of tiles I have on 8. My only complaint would be about skype in the background and such, but that doesn't really bother me because it has no front facing camera anyway.

I think really the problem was Nokia's 900. It was effectively an EOL device on launch. But worse, it was in my opinion over priced. I can really see a lot of people been pissed off who bought one.

What MS really need to do is give devs a bit longer this time. The rush to get 8 out (and from informal blogs and such it appears obviously it was a real close one) ment that they didn't finalise the SDK in time. As such people sumbitted their apps without really testing them for the 8 market place. People who had the network issue assumed it was just the emulator.

I mention this because when you read reviews of say the 920 written on launch day, compared with ones written today, people are really rather negative about the app store in the older one. This is because there was nothing really there, people hadn't had chance to actually run their apps on the new device or hardware. Reviewers let this slide for say the iPhone 5 because it just ment they had a black border, but on 8 it ment they weren't in the store and those that were frequently fell fowl of any issues you can't test in the emulator (or incorrectly attribute to the emulator). This I think hurt them.

It amazed me that at no time was I told when I'd get the new SDK for 8, be able to get hardware for it. I'm ment to be a more loved than average MS dev with all the free crap they throw at me, yet no one could provide me anything about WP8 before general release. That is really dumb.

Given that blue isn't ment to be changing the core, or rather no one could guess how they'd change it CE is dead, all NT now. I'd be very suprised if they didn't maintain back compatability.

However currently updates are a trickey business for network operators, it costs them a lot, because afterall you can't get the kind of lawyer techies required for it for anything less than a kings randsom, and you know how in-efficent it will be.

But these operators just see the updates as a cost. How many people actually say "oh no way I'm going to use XYZ for service because they took 3 months to approve Mango". With all the attention people are getting for something like Firefox OS at MWC, Microsoft will have to try and be even more (as its already in a 3rd place) understanding on this matter.

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Originally Posted by streetster

Not tempted to go the custom rom route... xda forums?

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I am now! :D I wasn't bothering but since I'm holding off upgrading, think I might give it a go...

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Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk

that picture of ballmer alone makes me want to stick with android...

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lmfao