News - EA releases Battlefield 4 trailer and gameplay videos

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Originally Posted by shaithis

BF was one of the first games to use multicores so efficiently. in many cases it runs better on a cheaper AMD chip, than the equivalent intel. Most certainly, not the game to switch from AMD for!

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Thanks (I think) ... darn, I'll just have to keep looking for another reason (not for BF4 now, but the other stuff that reportedly runs better on Intel). Although I suppose an FX might be possibility if I want to stay loyal to AMD.

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Originally Posted by Terbinator

Of course, there isn't much to report too. Everyone knows that, but then every man and his dog has already separated the wheat from the chaff in their mind and isn't remotely bothered beyond "where is our MP Dice!!1?!?!11111".

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Urm, hand up - here's one person who definitely IS bothered beyond the MP capabilities. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Terbinator

He's moaning about there being no release date, too. You could bet your house it was going to release this autumn - this has to be the first time i've seen a "hack" moan about the time needed to receive a release date for something all but confirmed anyway.

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Agree - he's being a bit daft here. "Autumn2013" is good enough for me - especially as we all know that EA (and others) will be looking carefully at what else is due to launch in that timeframe so they get the maximum amount of PR bang-for-their-buck. Ignoring past experience, it's common sense. And, while it might be daft thing to say, I'd prefer EA/DICE took their time with BF4 rather than launch some bug ridden mess that needs a month or two's patches just to get to "barely playable". I'm betting that launch will be October.

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Originally Posted by Terbinator

Edit: Zero mention about the (seemingly limited) squad mechanics.

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Hard to tell what the limits are. That said, having to do an undue amount of "squad management" is going to destroy the pacing of the SP campaign - so while it's really nice to get squad members to do supressing fire etc, I wouldn't like to have to micromanage the way that was sometimes the case in Ghost Recon. But that's just me and I'm sure there's control freaks out there who are disagreeing strongly! ;)

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Originally Posted by crossy

Already done my video card (GF460->7970), but I'm wondering if I can use BF4 as a "justification" (cough, cough) to switch from my current hexcore PhenomII to an i7 (IB or Haswell). After all my 3DMark figures seem to show that I'm a little light on cpu power. ;)

EDIT: Just watched that 17 minute trailer - if the gameplay portions are representative (i.e. not carefully chosen and equally carefully edited together) then BF4 looks to be very special indeed. Particularly like the destructible cover! :drool:

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I had a 7970 for a bit and I have a GTX 670 now, which runs BF3 better in my experience. Along with my 4.5Ghz 2500K It can run BF3 very well at 1080p with settings bumped right up to the top apart from MSAA on x2. However, I do get some brief frame rate drops to about 40-45fps when things get crazy during a 64 player game! Judging from that gameplay footage I would say that I won't be able to do the same with BF4 if I want to keep a near on solid 60fps. Well, unless they do a better job of optimizing this one. With almost any game I can settle for this. But Battlefield games are just so good that I always want to run them at their best! I really hope I can avoid upgrading again haha. I'll probably be SLI'ing this 670 within weeks of that BF4 release lol.... Good luck all :/

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Originally Posted by ZaO

I had a 7970 for a bit and I have a GTX 670 now, which runs BF3 better in my experience. Along with my 4.5Ghz 2500K It can run BF3 very well at 1080p with settings bumped right up to the top apart from MSAA on x2. However, I do get some brief frame rate drops to about 40-45fps when things get crazy during a 64 player game! Judging from that gameplay footage I would say that I won't be able to do the same with BF4 if I want to keep a near on solid 60fps. Well, unless they do a better job of optimizing this one. With almost any game I can settle for this. But Battlefield games are just so good that I always want to run them at their best! I really hope I can avoid upgrading again haha. I'll probably be SLI'ing this 670 within weeks of that BF4 release lol.... Good luck all :/

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I'd be very happy with 40fps+, actually a MinFPS of 25-30 would probably be okay (I'm old so my eyes don't see the flicker - haa haa). But the point you bring up about optimisation is a good one - NVidia and AMD both have been optimizing like crazy for BF3 (or at least I've seen mention of "improved BF3 performance" in a lot of the release notes). In which case I idly wonder how much of that BF3 goodness will also be applicable to BF4 (since I'm assuming they're using the same graphics engine).

Oh, and BF3 on the PC IS beautiful to look at - everyone raves about Crysis, but in terms of looks possible on a reasonable setup (no quad SLI rigs cooled by LN2) the old BF3 is appealing.

Oh (#2) there's also the BF4 MP beta for all those folks who bought the MoH:WF packs. Got mine on the XBox, but have my fingers crossed that the MP invitation is for both console and PC.

Beta for BF3 Premium peeps as well.

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Originally Posted by crossy

Oooo. Does this mean that the campaign won't just be a "training ground" for multiplayer? If it's a proper game in itself then here's one BF3 owner that will definitely putting in a BF4 pre-order. Although I think I'll be doing it via my local Gamestation/Game store.

Being controversial (perhaps) I thought that the BF3 single player was better than the equivalent in the latest CoD - at least on the PC at any rate. :)

Already done my video card (GF460->7970), but I'm wondering if I can use BF4 as a "justification" (cough, cough) to switch from my current hexcore PhenomII to an i7 (IB or Haswell). After all my 3DMark figures seem to show that I'm a little light on cpu power. ;)

EDIT: Just watched that 17 minute trailer - if the gameplay portions are representative (i.e. not carefully chosen and equally carefully edited together) then BF4 looks to be very special indeed. Particularly like the destructible cover! :drool:

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Originally Posted by crossy

I'd be very happy with 40fps+, actually a MinFPS of 25-30 would probably be okay (I'm old so my eyes don't see the flicker - haa haa). But the point you bring up about optimisation is a good one - NVidia and AMD both have been optimizing like crazy for BF3 (or at least I've seen mention of "improved BF3 performance" in a lot of the release notes). In which case I idly wonder how much of that BF3 goodness will also be applicable to BF4 (since I'm assuming they're using the same graphics engine).

Oh, and BF3 on the PC IS beautiful to look at - everyone raves about Crysis, but in terms of looks possible on a reasonable setup (no quad SLI rigs cooled by LN2) the old BF3 is appealing.

Oh (#2) there's also the BF4 MP beta for all those folks who bought the MoH:WF packs. Got mine on the XBox, but have my fingers crossed that the MP invitation is for both console and PC.

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That's good for you man :) I wish I was the same but I find the older I get, the less I can handle low frame rates >_< I got to have 55fps minimum these days or it screws my head up lol! Also I find the mouse response far to laggy and frustrating with lower frame rates. Seriously though man, good for you if you don't mind it!

Hopefully you can play that beta on the pc. I'm guessing it depends on which platform you purchased MOH? I would like to play the BF4 Beta. But at the same time, I'm glad I probably wont be because I want to get as much out of BF3 as possible before BF4 comes out. Sorta lost interest when Armoured Kill came out and didn't live up to my expectations. Aftermath won me back a bit, it was pretty cool. But then the latest one just didn't really capture my interest to much, other than one of the levels. They introduced new bugs and still haven't fixed the lag bug that's plagued us from day one! That's what annoys me. But I bet you this issue will be magically fixed in BF4 and made well known to make sure everyone buys it lol.... Anyway, I've started ranting and I didn't mean to! Stop :P

cant wait to play this game

That got a big yawn from me. Bored of the game as a whole and I'm just tired of the tanking because of crappy hit detection/lag and the inconsistent nonsense in BF3 (e.g. the amount of times I've been in tank duels where 2 shots to my front reactive armour is a disable while 4 to their plain rear armour isn't is a joke). I won't hold my breath for this 1 being any better.

This is all way to soon if you ask me. End Game only just came out for goodness sake. I hate what the success of CoD has done to this industry.

Frostbite 3 however is looking bloody amazing. To much sun glare/lens flare though :P

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Originally Posted by nomissivraj

This is all way to soon if you ask me. End Game only just came out for goodness sake. I hate what the success of CoD has done to this industry.

Frostbite 3 however is looking bloody amazing. To much sun glare/lens flare though :P

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I think you've nailed the point there with "I hate what the success of CoD has done to this industry". But I don't think we're gonna see any changes until the industry dies some more. I do miss the older days of pc gaming where games would get this legendary status and have people playing them for years and years (Battlefield 1942/2/2142 for example). They would get support most of that time too. But as with everything in life - if we keep buying it, they keep selling it!! It's our money that tells them what's right, not our opinions.

I wouldn't mind as much if they made existing games work before moving onto the next one. These days we are paying to be "BETA - Stage 2 Testers" when we think we are buying a finished game. Sometimes they get the game to a sort of alright state after a while, but then just ditch it and work on a new one. But we all keep falling for their broken promises and buying the new ones! And on that note, I am excited about BF4 haha.....

hmmm...£44.99 to pre-order after the fail that was BF3 server stability at launch? EA need to think harder about the price.

Wait until you get the premium offer for BF4 and then buy it, hopefully the bugs have been ironed out.

Prepare for new GPU..

eagerly waiting for this game.