News - Next gen Xbox reveal expected 21st May, launches in November

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A new $99 version of the Xbox 360, codenamed Stingray, will also be launched.

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"Must be internet connected" + "$300 with some kind of contractual subscription agreement" => "Cheap XBox Next with two years broadband internet", aka the same sales model as mobile phones.

And we all *love* mobile phone contracts. But at least a mobile phone needs the mobile connection to work for its primary reason for existing. We all know that a computer can play games without an internet connection, and that any such restriction is aimed at controlling and restricting us. Heaven forbid my internet provider mess up (it's Virgin Media, so it will) and I can't even play a game in single-player mode.

It's looking less and less likely that ill be getting a new console. Not really interested in the PS4 and I don't like being forced to be online which I think is most people's problem as well. Pretty much everyone is online all the time anyway it just people don't like being told that they have to do something. To be honest Forza is about the only Xbox game I'm interested that I can't already get on PC. But at the end off the day, a new console means games can finally push ahead with new technologies etc so can't complain too much.

I have never really been a XBOX fan in the first place and i still don't see myself getting the new XBOX even now

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Originally Posted by Devastater6194

Pretty much everyone is online all the time anyway it just people don't like being told that they have to do something.

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From speaking to friends, it seems more like people realising that their internet connections are not guaranteed to be up/working.....and as you say, it's obviously not required to make a single-player game function.

If it was done like steam/origin and allowed the key to be locked to the device and then used offline, I would think less people would have an issue.....and maybe it will, I guess we don't know yet.

So the new xbox is called "xbox" Their console naming structure is a little wierd...
Xbox > Xbox 360 > Xbox? Is it safe for me to assume the console after this will be another Xbox 360?
They can blow the new console out their ass if you have to have to be online to play a game.

I've had consoles since I was very little and recently made the transition to PC. I definitely still thought when I finished my PC that I'd keep on buying consoles too, that is no longer the case. Neither this Xbox or PS4 appeal enough to gain my moneys.

Interesting to see the 360 coming to that pricepoint though. I assume it's to completely ruin any chance of these android consoles taking off.

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Originally Posted by addz17

So the new xbox is called "xbox" Their console naming structure is a little wierd...
Xbox > Xbox 360 > Xbox? Is it safe for me to assume the console after this will be another Xbox 360?

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Same thing Apple did with iPad> iPad2> iPad. They're just following the trend.

out november so its a rush job thx glad im not getting a brick

Alot of the ps4 games have pre order prices of £70+, I suspect the new xbox will have the same price structure. Ill probably wait a year to see if they iron out bugs etc but the ps4 looks more likely at this point. Seeing alot of the playstation plus seems much like a much better deal than a years sub of xbox live. Still we will know more soon I guess but it isnt looking so good for me right now. I'd much rather have like a steam approach onto the new consoles but I cant see that happening at all :(

The wii U doesn't look so bad now eh ;) lol

I am still playing catch up on lots of Xbox 360 games and once I have done that I plan to get a cheap PS3 and play all the exclusives that I have missed - so probably be a year after launch before I will be looking at next gen anything ...

Having recently upgraded my hdtv from 720p to a 3d 1080p screen I can say that the current crop of consoles that were once ahead of there time are now left feeling dated. Neither the ps3 or x360 can push out pixels fast enough to keep up with 1080p all of the time, both suffer from low frame rates at times.

Microsoft should be commended over the evolution of the 360 though, the current interface is worlds apart from the original release.

I do wish more games were 3d enabled, gt5 looks amazing in 3d, and since the games are natively rendered in 3d with a lot more gpu grunt there is no reason why 3d cant become the norm for new games.

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Originally Posted by shaithis

If it was done like steam/origin and allowed the key to be locked to the device and then used offline, I would think less people would have an issue.....and maybe it will, I guess we don't know yet.

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If it is not similar to this I will eat my hat, a quick check-in to validate license and prevent piracy at first game launch, once a week or even every game launch etc is hardly arduous and hasn't stopped Steam from being popular. Steam is even at a disadvantage as it may be on laptops or disconnected systems, how often do you take an XBox on the train?! XBox will require internet to activate things, to get DLC, to do anything social - I really don't think it will bar you playing a single player game (already activated) when your broadband is down.

Like you say people just get all up in arms because they don't like to be told what to do...

I suspect the "$300 with contract" is for XBox Live services...

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Originally Posted by keithwalton

I do wish more games were 3d enabled, gt5 looks amazing in 3d, and since the games are natively rendered in 3d with a lot more gpu grunt there is no reason why 3d cant become the norm for new games.

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Still really only a small % of the market that have a 3D capable living room though, but if anything could benefit from the gimmick it's games. I like what my LG TV does, uses alternate frames with the polarising glasses to enable multiplayer split screen but with each player able to view the whole screen and nobody elses.

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Originally Posted by whitetop

out november so its a rush job thx glad im not getting a brick

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A rush job? They've only had... what 5 or more years to cook this up since the 360 steadied out.

Mod Edit: Triple post merged

Xbox is always online, PS4's boring but fast, WiiU look like it'll be a failure and every new processor ships with ever more capable on-board graphics. Really interested to see how this new generation pans out.