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Waiting for a more powerful version later on before i pick up one of these. Looks good though.
I just don't get it...I dont see the need, certainly not at the price they are going to charge.
You must not have seen the Windows 8 advert which essentially dumbs your home computer down into a big screen phone capable of playing Angry Brids(!)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeludedGuy
Casual gaming is a big market. The original Wii, the Sims series, Farmville, etc.
£100 for a small console with low power requirements, no more than £5 for games. All simple gaming in a small cude sounds good to me. Plus being Android it will work as a proper media player with huge support for most codecs. Plus apps for TV/Streaming services , so no need for buying new smart TV every 2 years to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeludedGuy
I see so much potential with this device - fingers crossed they don't poo it up.
You two are correct, I still don't get it. I can play all of those games casually on my phone, tablet, PC and Television.
A console really doesn't fit the casual gaming scene, I like playing a casual game whilst browsing facebook or browsing the web.
I like playing android games whilst I'm making a deposit in the toilet, this is casual gaming - it stops becoming casual gaming the moment I need to move myself into another room, turn on a console, turn on a TV and sit there playing games.
I don't get it.
Deluded, although I too can't see enough of a point to this to warrant buying one the appeal for a 'console' that is basically as powerful as a phone is:
1. You get a gaming controller.
2. Dedicated system running on power (i.e. not battery)
3. People are buying it to say "I want open an source gaming platform and this is how serious I am".
Hopefully, with Nintendo's "basic" WiiU console dropping to £150, and their commitment to helping devs port Android games to the WiiU platform, this might combine into a large enough threat the MS and Sony... Who knows!
Djini, I don't get point 3, is open source gaming platform really worth it?
I personally cant stand those free games that interrupt my game play every five seconds with adverts? No thanks.
I also dislike the pay to win platform where you can purchase in game currency for real money, or even worse, purchase experience points to level up quicker, what's the point in that?
Call me old fashioned but I like paying a one off price for my games with no options to pay to win.
Original Wii wasn't in the same class as phones, Facebook games etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimboukYou must not have seen the Windows 8 advert which essentially dumbs your home computer down into a big screen phone capable of playing Angry Brids(!)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeludedGuy
Casual gaming is a big market. The original Wii, the Sims series, Farmville, etc.
PC gaming is nerdy and expensive, XBox/PS3 are quite male dominated with pricey games and require the TV to play (i.e. not Mrs friendly) so they are different markets. Casual gaming on phones and tablets is a differently huge market because it enables you to fill moments of boredom anywhere, I don't see it being a huge market at home, especially when you need to use the TV to play. People might play phone/tablet games at home but I'd wager a large % is with the TV on a TV channel for them or someone else.
Biggest part of Ouya size devices for me is it might bring smart TV like features without being as useless as most smart TVs. I've got an new LG smart TV (bought based on image quality, connectivity, style and 3D modes in that order), the only thing we use is the BBC iPlayer app and still need to switch to the HTPC because there is no ITV player, 4OD, a poor DLNA client, no iTunes, no Airplay, poor music apps etc.
I don't see my HTPC hitting eBay anytime soon, it's just light years ahead. I've been experimenting with using an Android phone to assess capabilities but I'm not impressed yet...
There's a lot in play here, so it's understandable that you might have missed the appeal. Heck, I'm not convinced that it's as generally appealing as the fans would have us believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeludedGuy
As kingpotnoodle says, "conventional" consoles - XBox/PS - are invariably seen as "boys toys". Wii was pitched right, but then WiiU came along and kind of screwed that up.
There's a lot of of folks who've, so far, refused to get on the tablet/smart-tv gaming bandwagon. Actually my 2010 era TV doesn't do games. A small, cheap, low-fuss and quiet device is therefore an easier pitch - especially if that add-on device can be "justified" as a media hub/streamer including for services such as NetFlix etc. Buy this device and you get access to those online sources, AND can use it for games too. ;) There's also been some suggestions that Ouya - like SteamBox - might be extended with some basic office type capabilities.
And I know some people who have no problem with buying a Sky+HD or, worse still, a Tivo - and using it, yet offer an iPad or Nexus and it's regarded like some kind of digital roadkill!
£150 for an XBox or Nexus 7 v's £100 for the Ouya is an easier "sell". And the size of the Ouya kind of deactivates that "well where the heck are you going to put THAT" argument.
for a little less you could buy a used ps3 and play much better games and get a blu ray play. They priced this too high and it doesn't have the damn playstore
I think you've kind of missed the point - that's like saying "oh, for £50 more I could get a second hand laptop and be able to use Windows".Quote:
Originally Posted by erudito87
And while yes, you CAN get a PS3 (or XBox come to that - heck a NEW one's only £40 more than the Ouya's rumoured £99 price), and the games on that (or "those" if you include the XBox) are better they're also more expensive. Ouya have said that they're aiming at < $10 even for "premium" titles and I can't see you getting Bioshock Infinite etc on the PS3/Xbox for that kind of money.
Plus there's the perception - stated by kingpotnoodle etc - that the "proper" consoles are firmly geek toys, or failing that, ones for the guys.
As to BD player, there's a lot here who are saying that the "shiny frisbee" method of media distribution is sooo last decade and download is the way forward. I don't happen to agree with that assessment, but then again I'm a stubborn ole cuss! ;)
I'll agree with you that the lack of the Play Store is a bit of a handicap, but Ouya's assessment is that having their own store means that you're guaranteed to get only titles that have been optimised to work with the Ouya's controls. That said, it's a darn shame that Ouya buyers won't be able to access the Play Store's libraries of movies and music - at least not without some xda-developers-provided chicanery.
I don't get this either, why would you pay £100 just to play naff games that are available on various other mediums already.
Erm because, as stated above,Quote:
Originally Posted by tekgun
a. you don't regard the games available as "naff" - and you'll probably find that the leading ones have a LOT of downloads on Play/AmazonApp stores;
b. you don't have a tablet/smartphone capable of playing them;
c. you want to play on a large screen with a PROPER controller rather than "naff" on-screen controls.
d. you have a conventional TV - rather than one of the "smart" variety - and want to get into streaming media without the necessity to buy/build an HTPC or one of the many similar boxes (or PS3/XBox).
Shadowgun and Dead Trigger spring to mind as "non naff"* games that demonstrate (c). * although the in-app purchase "requirement" of both is - personally speaking - quite annoying. I'd rather pay for the game and not be ripped off by IAPs.
there are many used games that are amazing that you can probably get for around a tenner on ebay etc red dead redemption etc
You don't even have to go to the "effort" of fleaBay - if you've got an HMV near you then they're still doing pre-owns. And that seems to be the stock-in-trade of Game these days. Of course I'm not sure for how much longer, because all the supermarkets seem to be getting into this too - e.g. my local Asda had some pretty reasonable deals on "last years titles".Quote:
Originally Posted by erudito87
Problem with the 2nd user stuff is that the publishers are making it harder and harder to go that route - by using that "one time 'optional' DLC that's really mandatory" ploy. Personally speaking I'd wish someone'd slap 'em down for restrictive practice - but that's probably a pipe dream. And by the time you've paid for that "optional" (grr!) DLC then there's probably not much of a saving.
Like I've said often - it's horses for courses - if you're a big FPS fan and/or already have a console then Ouya probably isn't going to appeal at all. I'm a console-owning FPS fan and while I find it "interesting", it's very unlikely that I'll be buying an Ouya.