Page 1 of 5 1234 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 78

Thread: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    28,469
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1,849 times in 629 posts

    News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Windows RT will also get updated but we were not informed about what it will be called.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,829
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    870 times in 734 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    So, will Windows 8 even get a service pack?

    Apple style updates incoming?
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Lenovo Flex 2 / 12GB RAM / 240GB Corsair Force 3 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: HTC One U11 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM12.1 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  3. #3
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    74
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    4 times in 3 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    I don't know why they even used the term "service pack" in the first place. It's a lot easier to say Windows 8.1 instead of 'Windows 8 with service pack 1'.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    528
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked
    42 times in 35 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    I think 8.1 can be assumed as a service pack, it's certainly a simpler naming approach.

    I'm actually quite happy with Windows 8, there's a few niggles, there were bound to be, but overall it's won out over Windows 7 for me, especially on low-end systems like my dual-core 1.4GHz acer timeline, it has breathed new life into the device, it's booting and responding like a modern Ultrabook, something which Windows 7 never could make it do, even with a fresh install. It's just such an efficient OS.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Central Scotland
    Posts
    440
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    16 times in 11 posts
    • jnutt's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSi Z77A GD80
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7
      • Memory:
      • 16gig
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 500gig SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 1070SC
      • PSU:
      • CoolerMaster 750w
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master
      • Operating System:
      • Windows10 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung 28" and 24"
      • Internet:
      • Cable 300mb

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Well I'll probably use it. I like "8". I'm impressed by the startup and shutdown speeds. Performance is very good and after a few initial niggles I'm used to the new "Metro" layout.

  6. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    So, will Windows 8 even get a service pack?

    Apple style updates incoming?
    This is similar to a service pack, but more a feature pack, as it brings new usability features to the OS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scribe View Post
    I think 8.1 can be assumed as a service pack, it's certainly a simpler naming approach.

    I'm actually quite happy with Windows 8, there's a few niggles, there were bound to be, but overall it's won out over Windows 7 for me, especially on low-end systems like my dual-core 1.4GHz acer timeline, it has breathed new life into the device, it's booting and responding like a modern Ultrabook, something which Windows 7 never could make it do, even with a fresh install. It's just such an efficient OS.
    Reason why it's more than a service pack is because Blue/8.1 increments the NT Kernel from 6.2 to 6.3 which isn't usually done with service packs.

    It's a massive amount of features to be released and this update and other yearly updates have always been on the table long before Windows 8s launch. Just clarifying the last point up as no doubt many uninformed believe Windows 8 is awful (from a stability and developer standpoint, it can be awful from a usability point but that depends if the individual is accustomed to the new UI and understands the shortcuts) and believe MS forced the 8.1 update (well they did take feedback but 8.1 was always to be a released a year later).

  7. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    'even more tile sizes'

    Than two, sometimes?

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Blackpool, Lancashire
    Posts
    416
    Thanks
    21
    Thanked
    16 times in 14 posts
    • superscaper's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI GT725
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core 2 P9500
      • Memory:
      • 4 GB DDR2
      • Storage:
      • 500 GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Mobility HD4850
      • PSU:
      • 120W
      • Case:
      • MSI GT725
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Ultimate 64

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Boot to desktop yes, return of start button no (I'd rather not have the clutter of a button I don't use on my task bar).

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    326
    Thanks
    20
    Thanked
    29 times in 24 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Quote Originally Posted by jnutt View Post
    Well I'll probably use it. I like "8". I'm impressed by the startup and shutdown speeds. Performance is very good and after a few initial niggles I'm used to the new "Metro" layout.
    I like it too - it works just like a faster/slicker version of win7 once you spend some time tweaking (or buy software to do the same) - in my case to make it boot direct to desktop, restore the start menu (MUI is still accessible but not the default) and make the apps run within a window if in desktop mode.
    The fact is Win8 is a good piece of software. However, it is also a fact that all those things should have been options from the off, and should not have needed third party programs or 'off-label' tweaking to enable.
    As well as all the webnoise feedback in general, look at how much money third party developers such as Stardock have made from dealing with these problems that MS should have dealt with in the first place. Okay - so they wanted a 'unified' mobile/tablet/laptop/desktop experience, but shoehorning their desktop customers into using a system optimized for the other platforms was not the way to go about this.

  10. Received thanks from:

    aidanjt (16-05-2013),Saracen (15-05-2013),watercooled (15-05-2013)

  11. #10
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,147
    Thanks
    798
    Thanked
    2,151 times in 1,407 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    So, will Windows 8 even get a service pack?
    As already mentioned, they moved away from the SP nomculture because this actually adds features, rather than being a collection of bug fixes.
    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Apple style updates incoming?
    I chuffing hope not! One of the reasons I would never use OSX for business is because of how they handle their licensing and security updates. What's that sir, a 3 year old computer, hahahahahah no security updates for you without another license fee!
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

  12. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,058
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    83 times in 77 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    will this be any better than windows 3.1?

  13. #12
    Senior Member Brewster0101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,614
    Thanks
    45
    Thanked
    54 times in 44 posts
    • Brewster0101's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus m5a99x evo
      • CPU:
      • AMD FX 8350
      • Memory:
      • 8GB (2x4) Corsair Vengence DDR3 1600mghz
      • Storage:
      • Western Green 3TB + Samsung 850Evo 512MB SSD, + 2TB NAS
      • Graphics card(s):
      • MSI 280X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AXi760
      • Case:
      • Corsair 650D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG 27" 27EA63 IPS LED
      • Internet:
      • 120Mb Bt

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    will this be any better than windows 3.1?
    Or 3.11

  14. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    411
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    15 times in 11 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    I will wait till it comes out and I can have a full review of all the "upgrades".

    W8 for me works well on tablets, is totally useless in a business desktop environment and OKish for an HTPC. The basic philosophy MS adopted for W8 is the problem: one size does not fit all, not all (or even most) devices work best with "touch" and, especially for security reasons, not everyone wants to have all data/media stored in the cloud

  15. #14
    Admin (Ret'd)
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    18,481
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    3,208 times in 2,281 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Quote Originally Posted by Tpyo View Post
    I like it too - it works just like a faster/slicker version of win7 once you spend some time tweaking (or buy software to do the same) - in my case to make it boot direct to desktop, restore the start menu (MUI is still accessible but not the default) and make the apps run within a window if in desktop mode.
    The fact is Win8 is a good piece of software. However, it is also a fact that all those things should have been options from the off, and should not have needed third party programs or 'off-label' tweaking to enable.
    As well as all the webnoise feedback in general, look at how much money third party developers such as Stardock have made from dealing with these problems that MS should have dealt with in the first place. Okay - so they wanted a 'unified' mobile/tablet/laptop/desktop experience, but shoehorning their desktop customers into using a system optimized for the other platforms was not the way to go about this.
    Quite. That's a very concuse and coherent way of saying exactly what I've tried to say in the various 'love or hate eight' threads we've had.

    Especially ....
    Quote Originally Posted by Tpyo View Post
    ....

    Okay - so they wanted a 'unified' mobile/tablet/laptop/desktop experience, but shoehorning their desktop customers into using a system optimized for the other platforms was not the way to go about this.
    I understand why they want a unified platform. What I don't understand is the mindnumbingly stupid assessment of the psychology of trying to force people onto it, whether they want it or not.

    I want certain things of my PC's, and since the very early days of Windows, and indeed since early pre-Win versions of DOS, I've upgraded periodically if and when the benefits of doing so justify the cost and the hassle involved.

    What does MUI offer me that I want or need? Little or nothing, tending towards the latter. But the hassle of getting used to an entirely new UI? It's all downside and hassle, and zero upside.

    I have Win 8, bought and paid for, because I'm content the OS itself is better, and because I can get round and ignore MUI, using either Start8 or similar freebie tools. Had I not been able to do that, and just use it without bypassing all the stuff they tried to force on us, I would not have upgraded. Or not to a new version of Windows anyway.

    What they also managed to achieve was to instill a lot of ill-will towards MUI. Had it been an option, even a default but one you could disable, there would have been little or no backlash. But by trying to jam it down our throats, no matter how bad a case of indigestion swallowing it would cause, they generated a LOT of ill-will.

    Put it this way. MUI would now, for me, be a major reason to buy a tablet or phone that was not an MS product, simply to avoid it. That's how angry I am about having it forced on me.

    Adobe have managed to force me to stick with Photoshop CS6 or find an alternative product (like GIMP) by going subscription-only, and MS are very close to forcing me away from Windows as my primary platform. I never thought I'd switch from Photoshop, and I never thought I'd switch from Windows because of Photoshop.

    Realistically, I doubt my photographic needs will ever require anything CS6 and Win7 (or a Start8'd Win8) can't handle, so betweem them, they've saved me exposure to considerable upgrade fees by forcing me to look elsewhere, like Linus/GIMP. So, I suppose I should be thanking you, Adobe/MS, for saving me the money. Between you, the next year or two of savings probably just paid for a camera upgrade.

  16. #15
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    64
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Quote Originally Posted by jnutt View Post
    Well I'll probably use it. I like "8". I'm impressed by the startup and shutdown speeds. Performance is very good and after a few initial niggles I'm used to the new "Metro" layout.
    I agree, however I use sleep 99% of the time on my PC so how or where Win 8 "boots" is never an issue, although when it does boot from a restart for example it is very fast (ok SSD helps) but boots into 12 month install of Win8 in <6 seconds!

    Plus, I've been using Start8 $5 utility since I installed Win8 so booting to desktop and the Start button were never really an issue!
    I think these two "quicks" are just easy bitching points for people that just like to complain about anything new!

  17. #16
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    15
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: News - Next Windows officially named Windows 8.1 - free for Win8 users

    Fantastic work by Microsoft, I don't see how anyone can complain.
    I like Windows 8 too. Desktop is there if needed, and that's where I am most of the time.
    I've come to like the front end metro screen. Its just the confusion of making a mouse and keyboard work with a touch screen scenario that's the problem. But they will address that's.

    Everyone's a winner.
    Love Windows 8 for the most part and Windows phones are brilliant.

Page 1 of 5 1234 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •