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News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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System offers 33.86 petaflop/s, is nearly twice as powerful as the second placed machine.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
"3.12 million processor cores." !! don't know what to say.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
hapilynvraftr
"3.12 million processor cores." !! don't know what to say.
Don't forget that for super-computing they count individual stream processors in GPUs etc. 1160 Titans will get you up to 3.12m "cores" ... ;)
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
International e-peen fight!
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Wonder what would happen if they overclock it?
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
Percy1983
Wonder what would happen if they overclock it?
Seen the Terminator films?
That's what.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Being twice as fast as Titan isn't impressive at all considering they needed over 10 times the amount of CPU cores to do so... Sounds really inefficient too. GPU power is where we should be headed.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
zap117
Being twice as fast as Titan isn't impressive at all considering they needed over 10 times the amount of CPU cores to do so... Sounds really inefficient too. GPU power is where we should be headed.
Well, they are leveraging GPU power (parallel processing) with the Phi's, that's exactly what they do. It's also been stated above, the core count includes all the GPU cores, the Phi has upto 61, so it's actually incredibly efficient.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Titan is actually more energy efficient.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
WOW. Just WOW. SO MUCH POWER!!!!!!
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Titan is actually more energy efficient.
So the Tianhe-2 must have a great cooling system as well? That sort of thing tends to be the limiting factor at the end of the day.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
brasco
Well, they are leveraging GPU power (parallel processing) with the Phi's, that's exactly what they do. It's also been stated above, the core count includes all the GPU cores, the Phi has upto 61, so it's actually incredibly efficient.
It does say specifically "among the 3.12 million CPU cores..." unless that's a typo and it was supposed to include GPU cores.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
zap117
It does say specifically "among the 3.12 million CPU cores..." unless that's a typo and it was supposed to include GPU cores.
Yep, I was simplifying it so you understood what I was getting at, they're PCI-E based coprocessors, not really CPUs or GPUs, they're also x86 based which is awesome. I should have said coprocessor not GPU, it was just easier as they're in the same form factor.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
would Minesweeper make it BSD???
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Sure it is defective. It is Made in China eh.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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brasco
... they're also x86 based which is awesome.
They added a big custom floating point unit to an old Pentium design. That's like strapping a rocket to a moped, you are welcome to ride that, I would rather walk :D
It would work if they back ported the Phi architecture to mainstream CPUs such that you could buy an i7 and run 8 threads of identical code to the Phi albeit at much reduced speed. It sounds like the Phi extensions will remain Phi only though, so calling it x86 is wrong and an insult to our intelligence.
Even Nvidia got this right, they made cheap consumer cards like GT430 run FP64 instructions at a much reduced rate compared to the top end GPGPU cards, but the ability is there.
Oh course Phi failed as a graphics card, maybe the Intel CPU guys can see why and refuse to be tarnished by the project.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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DanceswithUnix
They added a big custom floating point unit to an old Pentium design. That's like strapping a rocket to a moped, you are welcome to ride that, I would rather walk :D
Haha, I like the analogy! I've read that the extenstions are only for the specific Xeon CPU and Phi combo. Someone described it to me as - "the Xeon mothership CPU and it's PCIe Phi drones"
Would love to see it develop into a mainstream accelerator, although Nvidia and even OpenCL are ahead in terms of software support and the fact I can use a consumer GPU for GPGPU is working out well.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Chinese hackers crack facebook's 128bit encryption in 5...4...3.. ;)
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
Percy1983
Wonder what would happen if they overclock it?
It burns a hole in the earth and ends up in the south Pacific somewhere!
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
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Originally Posted by
brasco
Haha, I like the analogy! I've read that the extenstions are only for the specific Xeon CPU and Phi combo. Someone described it to me as - "the Xeon mothership CPU and it's PCIe Phi drones"
Would love to see it develop into a mainstream accelerator, although Nvidia and even OpenCL are ahead in terms of software support and the fact I can use a consumer GPU for GPGPU is working out well.
The difference is that AMD and Nvidia have been solving this for decades and know how to feed that many cores.
This amused me:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31...e-too-powerful
Too powerful indeed! Supposedly Phi failed as a graphics engine because the architecture bottlenecked like crazy, guess it sucks for compute as well. Guess they tried to take their moped around a corner rather than just a straight line :D
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Ahaha, that sounds ludicrous.
My main problem with simulations is if they can't saturate the GPU, the speed boost is neglegible over running it on the CPU - so it's a case of finding the sweetspot, it's never simple is it? I thought it would be the same for this, but assumed there'd be plenty of huge simulations to throw at it!
I'm still happy there's competition between the 3 companies in the GPGPU sector, good for the end users.
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
i reckon minecraft would blue-screen it haha jk
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Re: News - China retakes supercomputer lead with the Tianhe-2
Got up yesterday checked the weather FINE
Played golf at 07.30 RAINED AT 10.00
All this TECH and they cant even get that mornings weather forecast right