News - Intel Skylake to use PCIe 4.0, SATA Express, and DDR4

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And to bundle in fastest-ever IGP, according to reports.

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But Intel 14nm is delayed. If consumer parts aren't out until 2015, then broadwell Xeon isn't out until 2016?

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31...esh-in-q2-2014

Old slide perhaps.

For 2016 they might as well say it runs on magic pixie dust, the platform just isn't finished yet and things will change.

Wait... you mean the current chips don't run on magic pixie dust?!

The more exciting news is that ddr4 is coming this generation

DDR4 meh!
More interested in its replacement, we can only hope its sooner rather than later.

Evolutionary tales.

Am I imagining things or does that same chart show Haswell using DDR4 as well?

Is DDR4 a good move considering the DirectX 11.2 announcement on system memory usage? Or is this going to be the first new DDR RAM that doesn't sacrifice latency for bandwidth at release?

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Am I imagining things or does that same chart show Haswell using DDR4 as well?

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It's apparently referring to Haswell-E that will support DDR4

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Originally Posted by shaithis

Is DDR4 a good move considering the DirectX 11.2 announcement on system memory usage? Or is this going to be the first new DDR RAM that doesn't sacrifice latency for bandwidth at release?

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No SDRAM has ever sacrificed latency for bandwidth at release. It's just that people measure latency completely wrongly. Why compare latency in cycles between two products where one does a lot more cycles/sec ;)

Shame its taking so long to implement some of these specs. Would have thought that the improvement on SATA 3 would be here sooner, PCIe 3 hasn't really taken off yet, so not really worth getting excited about 4th generation.

If we stuck to PCIe 3 simply because it hasn't been around that long, then we'll never bother with PCIe 4 support, and similar improvements. Someone has to be the first to support something. If Intel hadn't started adding USB3 support until everybody else already had, then no-one else would bother either. (I am aware that USB3 wasn't the best example here, as USB2 is ancient, whereas PCIe 3 is still new).

As upcoming SATA is getting PCIe connectivity on it, then PCIe 4 may turn out to be fairly important for getting the best out of your SSD.

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Am I imagining things or does that same chart show Haswell using DDR4 as well?

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I see the same thing, nothing about a Haswell-E.

all of you going ` ooh , arrr` over DDR4 - tell me where can go and buy some? or a board that supports it?

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Originally Posted by HalloweenJack

all of you going ` ooh , arrr` over DDR4 - tell me where can go and buy some? or a board that supports it?

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You'll be able to buy it from Scan and other retailers when chips that support it come out. Likewise the boards will come out at the same time as well - like the recent Haswell/chipsets. According to that slide, it's some time in 2014 on the server side at least, which may or may not be skt 2011 or it's successor.

Good to see the mention of SATA Express, wonder what the connectors will be like?