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    News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    Standard will enable the coexistence of SATA and PCIe storage devices, improve power usage.
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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    So, internal Thunderbolt without the DisplayPort integration?

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    How long before we can expect to see this on cases and motherboards? Probably 2014-2015 I would imagine.
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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    Quote Originally Posted by edzieba View Post
    So, internal Thunderbolt without the DisplayPort integration?
    Not really, although if you think of Thunderbolt as purely a PCIe cable then I guess so, at a very high level. But then you might as well think of it as more similar to plain PCIe. Thunderbolt is a butchered, patent-encumbered standard designed for external use. This is a standard catered towards internal storage, including things like power management as mentioned in the article, and things like boot drive support built into the BIOS.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    So is this using the same SATA connector, just pumping PCIe signals down it instead of SATA signals?

    Could you have a hybrid drive SATA Express drive that would work using the SATA signaling and protocols on older systems and PCIe on newer ones?

    Pretty cool if that is the case. Should breath more life into the SSD market again, manufacturers won't all be bumping around the performance ceiling of SATA3.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    I think that's basically what it is, yeah.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    i'd so love to see this integrated into the 88x chipset that will arrive with socket FM2+ and kaveri!
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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hand View Post
    How long before we can expect to see this on cases and motherboards? Probably 2014-2015 I would imagine.
    Intel Skylake should support it, so 2015 (unless haswell-E will already support it.)

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    A good question is this drivers or hardware upgrade? Is it like a mPCI/PCI-e to Sata cable?

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    And one day we might have affordable devices to use all this bandwidth.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Pretty cool if that is the case. Should breath more life into the SSD market again, manufacturers won't all be bumping around the performance ceiling of SATA3.
    Yeah. It's cool, but what SSD market really need is much faster adoption of 3D NAND and newer non-flash technologies (like RRAM) - because ultimatelly what is keeping SSD at stagnation are prices. They are simply still way too high, for SSD market to move forward.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    They do seem to have reached another plateau at around £150 for a 250GB SSD (give or take a few £ and a few GB).

    New memory technologies are moving into production at last after years in research and new interface standards/protocols are being ratified and on their way to manufacturers. I give it six months to a year for us to see the benefits from this.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    I hope this means mPCIe slots that support both mPCIe and mSata, would be very handy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    They do seem to have reached another plateau at around £150 for a 250GB SSD (give or take a few £ and a few GB).
    You're shopping at the wrong place mate , the 250GB 840 EVO's been selling for ~£130 for a while now.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    Quote Originally Posted by noodles2k View Post
    You're shopping at the wrong place mate , the 250GB 840 EVO's been selling for ~£130 for a while now.
    Not shopping, just looking Usually just look on Scan every now and then to see how prices are doing, and the 840 EVO's are around the £140 point. Alhtough you can get 240-256GB drives for about £100 if you go refurbished (not convinced myself).

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Alhtough you can get 240-256GB drives for about £100 if you go refurbished (not convinced myself).
    Yeah, buying an ssd that has already failed once just doesn't appeal to me.

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    Re: News - New SATA 3.2 revision includes SATA Express, speeds up SSHDs

    hopefully these would bring ssd prices down, though im still having double thoughts about the longevity of ssd drives

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