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    News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    A wide range of new accessories are also announced. New tablets to arrive on 22nd Oct.
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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Well crud. If the Pro 2 had a higher DPI display it'd be a done deal, but I guess I'll have to wait for the Sony Flip or Lenovo Yoga 2 (or the Samsung Ativ Q if it ever surfaces again).

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    So the Pro 2 is an ultrabook that has been split up into a series of expensive peripherals?

    And the Surface 2 is a Windows tablet with very few apps, but with all the joy of Windows? Just faster and with prettier Windows than RT.

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Quote Originally Posted by edzieba View Post
    Well crud. If the Pro 2 had a higher DPI display it'd be a done deal, but I guess I'll have to wait for the Sony Flip or Lenovo Yoga 2 (or the Samsung Ativ Q if it ever surfaces again).
    It's a 1080p display which is more than enough for that size. Higher pixel densities will be a drain on battery life.

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Still about as lap friendly for the train as a cup of hot tea balanced your nuts but otherwise it looks pretty good. Shame that one use-case totally ruins it for me :-(

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Windows RT is completely pointless imo and S2 Pro prices START at £720 with a just 64GB
    Pass.

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    It seems a tad expensive imo
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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Pro 2 is a winner for me. Getting one I reckon

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Looks like I'm waiting for surface 3. Having held a Sony Xerpia Tablet Z (495g) anything heavier just seems too damn heavy. The Surface 2 (RT) is weighing in at 680g, presumably for the tablet alone. 9mm...meh, Tablet Z is 6.9mm so that's nothing to shout about. For reference the iPad 4 weighs 662g.

    The new Samsung Note 10.1 2014 edition (2560x1600 display), is reported to weigh 535g for the Wifi model, which for the added functionality of the S-Pen stylus is more than acceptable.

    I'm still seriously considering the Surface 2 for the fact it can be used as a work machine, but with the type cover likely costing a further £90-100 on top of the base price that puts it firmly in the price range of what I expect the Note 10.1 2014 edition to come in at, if only I could've had it with the type cover for £400 and the base unit came in under 550g I'd have probably took a chance with Windows RT (I'm not bothered about apps really), as it stands I think I'm going to pass...
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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    hmmm quite overpriced

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    quite confused by people saying the pro 2 is overpriced. Its a full on haswell machine with 1080p in a miniature form factor. In comparison to the direct competition its fairly ok.

    RT is just a bit of a joke though really, nothing to offer most people.

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    RT is just a bit of a joke though really, nothing to offer most people.
    Disagree with that. The RT is enough for people who don't need to run any desktop apps more than MS office. Outlook, Word, Excel and PowerPoint are enough for a lot of use cases of 'casual creators' or people who have a PC and want a tablet that isn't a complete pain to say update a word document on.

    I really like the RT because it is light enough, with long enough battery. The 2 is a simple iterative improvement on this.

    I also really like the RT as a tablet, but as I've said before I still think 7 inches is the perfect tablet size for me. It's only downside to me, is its size.

    However I will probably be replacing my Surface RT with a Surface 2. The amount of use I've had out of it this year justifies easily the cost. I use it mostly as my "Office Slab" when doing work, and my favourite tablet for browsing the web. Browsing the web on it is better than any other tablet I own. As a developer who is cross platform, I own 6 tablets atm, so this isn't some stupid fanboy comment, I just find browsing on the iPad frustrating.
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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    If the apps improve would seriously consider the Surface 2.

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Out of interest, which kind of apps in particular?
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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    These look like good working tablets compared to Android and iPad. The Surface Pro will really benefit from Broadwell next year battery life wise, though personally I would be more inclined to go for a Surface 2 (or 3) myself. MS ought to use these youtube videos as apart of their advertising campaign; they could sell a few!

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    Re: News - Microsoft introduces Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 at New York event

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Disagree with that. The RT is enough for people who don't need to run any desktop apps more than MS office. Outlook, Word, Excel and PowerPoint are enough for a lot of use cases of 'casual creators' or people who have a PC and want a tablet that isn't a complete pain to say update a word document on.

    I really like the RT because it is light enough, with long enough battery. The 2 is a simple iterative improvement on this.

    I also really like the RT as a tablet, but as I've said before I still think 7 inches is the perfect tablet size for me. It's only downside to me, is its size.

    However I will probably be replacing my Surface RT with a Surface 2. The amount of use I've had out of it this year justifies easily the cost. I use it mostly as my "Office Slab" when doing work, and my favourite tablet for browsing the web. Browsing the web on it is better than any other tablet I own. As a developer who is cross platform, I own 6 tablets atm, so this isn't some stupid fanboy comment, I just find browsing on the iPad frustrating.
    Office is the only forte for the Surface RT, if you want to use a tablet the way most people use a tablet, its a bit pants. Yes there are more and more apps and games coming along and its getting better, but why limit yourself when you can get an Atom based one from a 3rd party supplier and have full x86 flexibility, i dont understand any need for RT anymore in the light of intels new chips.

    If it was throw away money then maybe more people would buy them and it might stand a chance of spreading its market share beyond the typical 'second screen/mobile office' machine, but its far from that and most people are genuinely better off with an android cheapy fondletab.

    Im starting a new job soon and my plan is to try and get a Surface 2 Pro as my computer off them . Will probs end up with a more ordinary ultrabook but meh... worth a shot.

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