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    News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Optimising driver performance for OpenGL and tuning SteamOS for lower latency.
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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Given AMD's talk about Mantle, it looks like everyone's shaking down for a big head-to-head between AMD with the next gen console wins trying to make cross-developing between consoles and PC easier, and Valve/NVIDIA pushing "open" gaming on SteamOS with streaming support from PCs (and maybe consoles in the future?).

    I have to say this makes me even more convinced that the third big announcement is going to be a handheld steaming device running SteamOS - perhaps it'll be an NVIDIA/Valve collaboration and we'll see Shield running SteamOS?

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    I sure hope AMD is in the bandwagon as well. Dont need the PC console divide to grow more because of AMD / nVidia.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    If Linux finally does become a well supported gaming platform that's one of the last reasons to stick with Windows gone.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    I'm pretty sure Valve will be talking to all parties, just nVidia want some tech headlines on the day AMD announce their new range.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Exciting times we live in.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Agreed, as soon as this comes out and is proven to support all the games I play or intend to buy then windows will be off my machine quicker than it takes to re-boot a windows machine!

    Although saying that, it will still need to support other linux softwares such as Open Office for it to actually be feasible as a windows replacement on the main computer.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Quote Originally Posted by theanalyzer View Post
    I sure hope AMD is in the bandwagon as well. Dont need the PC console divide to grow more because of AMD / nVidia.
    If AMD aren't involved then I've got to wonder about Valve's claims of a wide hardware choice. From AMD's point of view then if they haven't got themselves involved then they're mad - as it seems like a missed opportunity (AMD APU-based budget Steam Machine anyone?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadders87 View Post
    Although saying that, it will still need to support other linux softwares such as Open Office for it to actually be feasible as a windows replacement on the main computer.
    Libre Office, not Open variety.

    Actually based on what skimpy information is available, it looks like the mainstream stuff - like LO - will probably work. But anything more offbeat - like some of those music sequencing packages etc - might be out.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Quote Originally Posted by crossy View Post
    ... AMD APU-based budget Steam Machine anyone? ...
    If they can port the Mantle API to linux and persuade AAA title writers to do Linux/OpenGL ports, that'd be quite something

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Quote Originally Posted by crossy View Post
    If AMD aren't involved then I've got to wonder about Valve's claims of a wide hardware choice.
    I suspect by choice of hardware they mean Dell, HP, Acer...

    The average punter probably couldn't care less what graphics card powers it, just how many GB of ram it has. Hence the qualification process to guarantee a minimum level of performance, else no-name junk will turn up on ebay with an Atom paired with a 4GB 6450 video card.

    Microsoft's performance index always struck me as a fairly useless feature, but I am thinking that SteamOS could really do with that.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I suspect by choice of hardware they mean Dell, HP, Acer...
    I'll disagree, based on various stuff out there, for example this quote from the official SteamOS page:
    With SteamOS, “openness” means that the hardware industry can iterate in the living room at a much faster pace than they’ve been able to. ... Users can alter or replace any part of the software or hardware they want.
    That - unless I've misread it badly - means no "black boxes", hence AMD has got to be in there with a shout.
    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    The average punter probably couldn't care less what graphics card powers it, just how many GB of ram it has. Hence the qualification process to guarantee a minimum level of performance, else no-name junk will turn up on ebay with an Atom paired with a 4GB 6450 video card. Microsoft's performance index always struck me as a fairly useless feature, but I am thinking that SteamOS could really do with that.
    Yep, you're onto something there. I've always thought that the performance index itself was too simplistic and what was needed was a trio of benchmarks - cpu performance, storage and/or memory performance and video card performance. Get a standard (that is - included in the OS) benchmark suite that you could run after you have replaced "any part of the software or hardware" that would give you your three figures then express the minimum/recommended performance levels needed in a game as this trio.

    As you say, we want to avoid junky systems that just leave a bad taste in the mouth.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    The two main issues with the a Steam box is convincing people to drop Windows and competing with consoles under a TV.

    If you play non steam games then you need 2 out of the three machines. A Windows PC will play steam games a console has a huge catalogue of exclusive games and standardised hardware that just works. I think dealing with the usual PC hardware/software config issues and somehow attracting buyers from the console market is going to be very difficult.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Even though the average gamer wont notice the difference in the beginning but as newer games become available upgrades will have to be made. If it keeps to a PC build upgrades will be fairly simple unless they have to be custom parts. I have to wait and see how the system will work and if upgradeability will be there when it is needed. The software could limit the games that can be available on that specific system where as PC is streamlined to work with the Software used.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    So Nvidia are supporting linux systems now? That's a bit of a change of opinion

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    The two main issues with the a Steam box is convincing people to drop Windows and competing with consoles under a TV.

    If you play non steam games then you need 2 out of the three machines. A Windows PC will play steam games a console has a huge catalogue of exclusive games and standardised hardware that just works. I think dealing with the usual PC hardware/software config issues and somehow attracting buyers from the console market is going to be very difficult.
    The fact they say machines are supposed to be approved by them to be sold as SteamOS is promising, that should hopefully limit the config issues. As I have said before, if they allow HalfLife 3 to run on SteamOS for free, then I am in and I expect others will as well. That is not an insurmountable problem, just down to how much they are willing to spend. Microsoft lost billions (and helped sink Sega's hardware division) getting into games consoles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    So Nvidia are supporting linux systems now? That's a bit of a change of opinion

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
    No, they are supporting open source. They always supported Linux, that is the only reason I always choose Nvidia even when their hardware is second place to ATI. It is usually with a closed binary, and lots of people don't like that. Now they are helping the open source driver be stable. That's nice, but I shall be running their closed source one as I want the performance.

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    Re: News - Nvidia reveals it is one of Valve's SteamOS partners

    "If Linux finally does become a well supported gaming platform that's one of the last reasons to stick with Windows gone."

    I truly hope so, but I suspect this is why Microsoft and Sony have both stated they are watching Steam, undoubtedly with a view to trying to scupper it.

    Patent trolling?

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