News - New Reuters US poll shows PS4 easily beating Xbox One

[HEXUS]

Sony hoping that “this time things will be different”.

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[shaithis]

Useless info. Wild speculation. Small sample size.

I would really like to think people are choosing between the PS4and XBox One because of price/catalogue/specification.....or some other necessity, not based on the idea behind game sharing on XBL changing.

[AndyM95]

Better hardware, better OS, it's cheaper and in my opinion has a better company behind it. I would be surprised if it doesn't outsell the One.

[OilSheikh]

What is that blue book in the picture ? It looks awesome

[AETAaAS]

The words on the front say "Welcome to the World of Playstation". I'm guessing its probably the quick start guide or other similar documentation.

[addz17]

Microsoft tried to stick the arm in and screw over gamers everywhere, they would have gotten away with it if Sony had adopted a similar policy regarding sharing games (thank fk they didn't). As a windows 7 and xbox 360 user Microsoft have definitely left a bad taste in my mouth with their stupid windows tiles and this whole xbone disaster -_- Will be using SteamOS and a PS4 if they keep this up!

[KingORoff]

"Microsoft screws gamers by putting DRM on their games so a copy can only be played on one console, gamers are at war!"

Meanwhile...at the PC master race....

"Valve implements same policy with Steam for years. Little in the amount of ****s were given."

[edzieba]

"Microsoft screws gamers by putting DRM on their games so a copy can only be played on one console, gamers are at war!"

Meanwhile...at the PC master race....

"Valve implements same policy with Steam for years. Little in the amount of ****s were given."

Because with Steam, if I decide I don't want DRM I can just go and buy the game from GoG. Or a physical disk. And even on Steam, there are plenty of DRM-free games (e.g. all the ones using Dosbox), and an offline mode (albeit one you needed to remember to update steam first before activating). You can trade freedom for convenience, but it's entirely your choice to do so.

With the One, Microsoft are the only game in town. THAT'S why the ubiquitous DRM stuck in everyone's craw: there was no alternative.

[crossy]

Useless info. Wild speculation. Small sample size.
I would really like to think people are choosing between the PS4and XBox One because of price/catalogue/specification.....or some other necessity, not based on the idea behind game sharing on XBL changing.

The buzz I'm hearing is that the perception is that XBone and PS4 are very equally matched hardware wise. So the choice becomes either paying £100 more to get the XBone and it's Kinect mk2, or buying the Sony and spending that £100 on some decent titles. There's also a rumour going around that the PS4 titles will be a little bit cheaper than the XBone ones - larger fees from Microsoft?

If the hardware IS evenly matched then it's common sense that most will opt to save that £100, especially if it means giving up a "mandatory" peripheral that puts limitations where you can put the console (because Kinect still seems to need a good deal of free space - which makes it a non-starter for the average UK teenagers bedroom I would guess).

Me personally, I was very interested in the XBone up until the point that they announced that there was no backward compatibility (not even some way to get XBone'd versions of older titles - perhaps using your XBox disks as the proof of ownership). The UK pricing then zapped that - XBone's £500 would buy me a LOT of very useful PC upgrades - far easier to justify to la missus!

If Valve can sign up any of the AAA games then I'll buy (or more likely build) a Steam Box, failing that it looks like Sony will get my "next gen console" money, although PC gaming is proving quite attractive at the moment (Xbox not having been powered up in nearly six weeks).

[Andrew McP]

I'm not aware of any surveys, informal or otherwise, which show anything other than a fairly big swing towards Sony at the start of this cycle. I'm sure that won't last, because MS -- while rather inept these days when it comes to product marketing -- aren't suicidal, and they'll soon tap into the mainstream market rather than early adopting gamers.

Gamers is the key word there. Anyone listening to podcasts, reading articles, or watching YouTube shows will know that Sony have *really* got their act together this time, in terms of their core audience. The guys running the PS4 project are all full of genuine enthusiasm for their work, and they seem to fall over themselves to be as honest as they can be about what's in the pipeline.

So when I decided to throw caution to the wind and buy a rev 1.0 PS4, it wasn't because there's a particular title I want to play (apart from Resogun and Driveclub), and it certainly wasn't because I think it'll be perfect hardware. It was because I think it's going to be an interesting ride following this platform's journey. I like the guys in charge as much as I like the hardware, and although this rosy glow can't last, I certainly trust them to try and make my ownership an enjoyable experience.

[Chadders87]

What is that blue book in the picture ? It looks awesome

Guessing thats the fold out A3 "set-up" manual.

Personally, I think the PS4 will outsell the Xbox One when looking at sales to gamers, however the Xbox is more "family" friendly and I can see it taking the centre place as a piece of home entertainment equipment since it is advertised to replace the freeview box, provide on-demand and also media streaming.

For Gamers, the PS4 is the obvious choice, for families and living room entertainment... I'd choose the Xbox One.

This is of course ignoring the fact that theres a new contender with the SteamBox.

Personally speaking I am going to wait a year or so and see which one performs better in the market.

[davesom555]

"Microsoft screws gamers by putting DRM on their games so a copy can only be played on one console, gamers are at war!"

Meanwhile...at the PC master race....

"Valve implements same policy with Steam for years. Little in the amount of ****s were given."

Because with Steam, if I decide I don't want DRM I can just go and buy the game from GoG. Or a physical disk. And even on Steam, there are plenty of DRM-free games (e.g. all the ones using Dosbox), and an offline mode (albeit one you needed to remember to update steam first before activating). You can trade freedom for convenience, but it's entirely your choice to do so.

With the One, Microsoft are the only game in town. THAT'S why the ubiquitous DRM stuck in everyone's craw: there was no alternative.

Well i've certainly played my steam games on another pc... Didn't have any issues doing that.

[TheAnimus]

Well i've certainly played my steam games on another pc... Didn't have any issues doing that.

And the whole point of the Xbox one is that you could have done that too, without needing the disks. Everyone in the house could play together, on one license (steam is not so generous), you could log in on a friends console and have all your games available.

Sadly they did a 180 on that.

[cheesemp]

Hmm. I'm torn between a steam box and a PS4. Just not interested in the xbone purely down to how little works on my 360 without gold. Only real decision for me will be is streaming from the PS4 to my vita while the wife watches TV be better than streaming games from my PC onto the TV with the steam box... Price will also be a big issue as we've got a big expense on its way in 6 and half months...

[flufflogic]

Microsoft tried to stick the arm in and screw over gamers everywhere, they would have gotten away with it if Sony had adopted a similar policy regarding sharing games (thank fk they didn't). As a windows 7 and xbox 360 user Microsoft have definitely left a bad taste in my mouth with their stupid windows tiles and this whole xbone disaster -_- Will be using SteamOS and a PS4 if they keep this up!

But Sony HAS implemented a lot of the things MS were going to, as recently has Steam. Family Sharing on Steam is exactly what MS were trying to do - and, to boot, how games work on Steam is how games were going to work, except you'd still be able to sell them on.

People just assumed new = bad and didn't look into the benefits, purely because it was Microsoft. They fear change. They weren't screwing anyone over, unless you think Steam and Origin screw people over.

[crossy]

People just assumed new = bad and didn't look into the benefits, purely because it was Microsoft. They fear change. They weren't screwing anyone over, unless you think Steam and Origin screw people over.

Sorry that's wrong- Xbox gamers have been saying for months that a new console was needed, so to say that they/we were "new = bad" is wide of the mark. What Microsoft managed to do was trip over their own feet - PR wise. As you'll see from TheAnimus' comment above what they had was good, but instead of focussing on the freedom they were giving, they managed to get the press focussed on the restrictions.

And as to "Steam and Origin screwing people over" - I'd emphatically say they do. They're in business after all, not charities, so some degree of customer exploitation is to be expected. As with all of these systems we - the consumers - have to ask whether the degree of bend-over-and-take-it justify the benefits. In my case, I'd say "yes" for Steam and "no" for Origin. Hence I do a good deal of business with Steam and the bare minimum with Origin. I find the Steam client fast and easy to navigate, but Origin is an exercise in frustration.

Sony are equally culpable in the "exploiting their customer" stakes, but they've been a lot more savvy this time around and their PR has been at pains to do all that "we're your best bud's - honest" nonsense. So the perception is that the PS4 is a relatively open box with good/great media playing credentials, at a reasonable price.