News - Toshiba launches SSDs using second generation 19nm NAND

[HEXUS]

The Toshiba HG6 series will be available in several form factors from March.

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[Noxvayl]

Interesting, I would of thought that their acquisition of OCZ would of meant they would not have their own branded product compete with OCZ SSDs. Perhaps this product was already being geared for launch before the acquisition.

The specs look good, wonder what pricing and availability will be like though? I look forward to reviews.

[M4tt]

Maybe they'll use Toshiba for business products and OCZ for the consumer lines? I certainly wouldn't trust any OCZ drives to go in my servers!

[crossy]

I'm curious - the focus seems to be on finer and finer chips these days - with corresponding boosts in performance. For example I recently replaced my old OCZ Vertex 2 boot drive (32nm) with a Samsung EVO (19nm).

Anyway, what about the older chip designs - surely these must be cheaper to make? In which case, why doesn't someone get a load of these, slap 'em in a case and sell it cheap. I'd love a 1TB EVO, but there's no way I can justify the nearly £500 purchase price. So (arguably) there's a space in the market for a larger-capacity, but slower device.

And, let's be honest, even a "slow" SSD is going to show a clean pair of heels on read speed to a conventional HDD!

[Devastater6194]

Wouldn't mind a TB msata SSD. All we need now is a PCI-E card to allow us to add multiple cards and raid them using PCI-E rather than sata.

[Funkstar]

Anyway, what about the older chip designs - surely these must be cheaper to make? In which case, why doesn't someone get a load of these, slap 'em in a case and sell it cheap. I'd love a 1TB EVO, but there's no way I can justify the nearly £500 purchase price. So (arguably) there's a space in the market for a larger-capacity, but slower device.

The economies of silicon chips isn't as straight forward as that.

Using the same diameter wafer, which the last I heard was around 300mm, you can get more 19nm chips than 32nm chips. So actually the new chips end up cheaper than the old ones, as well as faster, cooler and more power efficient. To begin with they are probably the same cost per chip, or possibly even more expensive, as they get the manufacturing process ramped up and more reliable (a new process will see a drop in yeild - the number of working chips on a wafer - unit the process is tweeked and corrected). When this happens, we see a drop in prices.

[crossy]

The economies of silicon chips isn't as straight forward as that.

Using the same diameter wafer, which the last I heard was around 300mm, you can get more 19nm chips than 32nm chips. So actually the new chips end up cheaper than the old ones, as well as faster, cooler and more power efficient. To begin with they are probably the same cost per chip, or possibly even more expensive, as they get the manufacturing process ramped up and more reliable (a new process will see a drop in yeild - the number of working chips on a wafer - unit the process is tweeked and corrected). When this happens, we see a drop in prices.

Thanks for this. I'd kind of assumed (wrongly obviously) that when a new process came out that the companies making the older/larger items would have stocks of these "obsolete" parts that they'd like to get rid of (at a decent return of course).

Suppose I'll just have to continue to dream for a lottery win if I want a totally-SSD'd PC.