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    News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Also, is there going to be a Bing-sponsored free edition of Windows 8.1?
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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Could Microsoft possibly get even more schizophrenic?
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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Will be exciting to see, when the first post-8 April Windows XP update arrives...

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Could Microsoft possibly get even more schizophrenic?
    I'm not sure what you are getting at. Microsoft are worried that their operating system is being eroded by people using platforms which satisfy their needs, but cost a lot less (ie Tablets). They are also responding to the fact than an OS isn't really what's wanted, but an ecosystem. People want their apps, music, games, videos etc.

    Having a product offering for that space makes sense.

    Otherwise you behave like Xerox, be too focused.
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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    People want their apps, music, games, videos etc.
    This person doesn't, i want to choose my own apps, music, games, videos etc.
    If it is Microsoft offering those then fine, but if it isn't i want to be the one doing the choosing.

    What gets me is in the article it says 70 percent of Chinese users haven't used Windows update in 13 years, why would people not keep their system up to date.

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Meanwhile there has been speculation that Microsoft is prepping a version of Windows 8.1 that will be distributed for free.
    So now they're planning to GIVE 8.1 away - not exactly a ringing endorsement.

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    60% of XP in China is pirated.. OK so far making great sense to continue providing updates just for China
    70% of XP in China (presumably legitimate copies?) has never been updated.. again making sense to continue providing updates?

    So most installations are pirated, and most installations have never been updated/patched, yet it makes economic sense to continue providing updates for people who won't use them anyway but not for the rest of the world who actually do use patches and buy legitimate copies of Windows?

    I can only presume they're getting paid lots by these Chinese companies who somehow have a vested interest..

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    So if they can give software away and still make and distribute XP updates, why are MS discriminating against us and not giving us free software or at least the xp updates they actually will still be making...

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Apparently something was lost in translation.

    Microsoft denies extending Windows XP support for China
    http://www.zdnet.com/no-xp-support-e...tag=RSS14dc6a9
    Microsoft translates the actual language used in the post as:

    Microsoft China has taken special actions to closely work with leading Chinese internet security and anti-virus companies including Tencent for them to provide security protection for Chinese Windows XP users before they upgrade to modern operating system.

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    This person doesn't, i want to choose my own apps, music, games, videos etc.
    If it is Microsoft offering those then fine, but if it isn't i want to be the one doing the choosing.
    Then you, like me, will not be using the 'free tier' OS.

    But MS would be stupid to ignore that Google are pushing through the useless without Google Play OS.
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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    This person doesn't, i want to choose my own apps, music, games, videos etc.
    If it is Microsoft offering those then fine, but if it isn't i want to be the one doing the choosing.
    Then you, like me, will not be using the 'free tier' OS.

    But MS would be stupid to ignore that Google are pushing through the useless without Google Play OS.
    so you wouldnt want the state enforced monitoring app*?!

    i didnt quite get it there, what google are pushing & useless?


    * speculation only!

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Erm.... Not sure I understand what you are talking about.

    My comment about Googles OSes, Android and Crome OS, is that they are designed to be as useless as possible without the play ecosystem, with their app store, search, storage tie ins.

    Everyone wants to be a music, storage space, apps, videos, search, provider.

    Apple have completely missed the boat in this space, despite having the early lead. This is now a fight between Google and Microsoft. Chrome OS currently passes that could a complete idiot use it test (just), and it is completely tied into all of their revenue generation features.

    It's kind of like Gillette shavers, the blades are where you make the money, give the handles away for free.

    This is what Google and MS are racing to do it appears. Microsoft have spent a lot of time apparently re-engineering windows phone to run on even lower hardware, with only a 4gb core space requirement. Considering how well it's predecessor ran on a 800mhz single core, this could be quite compelling (compared to low end Android). If Microsoft produce a version of Windows RT, that is locked down, tied to their services, they could potentially provide it free without disrupting their other sales channels.
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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    i didnt read up far enough before replying, got carried away on another track after reading that privacy thread too, nvm!

    thanks, makes much more sense now!

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Erm.... Not sure I understand what you are talking about.
    Funnily enough I was going to agree with rabbid ... whatcha talking about Willis?
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    My comment about Googles OSes, Android and Chrome OS, is that they are designed to be as useless as possible without the play ecosystem, with their app store, search, storage tie ins.
    Hmm, you mean AOSP is "useless"? Granted it's "incomplete" without a user-accessible (i.e. not sideloading) way to add applications - but to say that it is "as useless as possible without the play ecosystem" is not the case. How about FireOS (Amazon), or Nokia's whatever-they're-going-to-call-it on their X series phones, or the bazillion of cheap Chinese knock offs? Or, my HP Zeen - runs Android, but no sign of anything Google shaped. Okay, I'm stretching the point on that last one, because the Zeen is the controller for my Photosmart eStation printer.

    Yes, you need some way to do the things you say - but it doesn't have to be Google's. On the flipside though, someone's going to have to explain the compelling case for ChromeOS to me, because it seems to be a product like WindowsRT, merely done "because we can". Imho, ChromeOS would have been better using Android, and WindowsRT better with either a cut-down proper Windows, or Windows Phone 8, my preference being for the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    This is what Google and MS are racing to do it appears. Microsoft have spent a lot of time apparently re-engineering windows phone to run on even lower hardware, with only a 4gb core space requirement. Considering how well it's predecessor ran on a 800mhz single core, this could be quite compelling (compared to low end Android).
    Agree/Disagree time. Yes, I've been very impressed with the way that WP8 makes use of "low end" hardware - lord only knows how it'd perform on something more upmarket, like a quad-core, 2GB RAM monster that seems to be de rigeur for mid- to high-end Android devices these days. The only exception is software updating (that's apps not the OS) - the initial download is fine* but then the WP8 device seems to go into a fugue - almost like it's trying to do something else too ... calculating pi to a million decimal places? Then again, Microsoft's software update process has never struck me as anything other than overly-laborious.

    * strange thing I've noticed, our two WP8 devices seem to be able to get a higher sustained data transfer rate on Wifi when doing updates than the two Android devices. Not sure if this is a more efficient Wifi stack in WP8, or overload on the Google Play store.

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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    Apparently this story has been denied. Shame as we have 600 XP machines at work, and I'm the one reinstalling them.

    http://www.zdnet.com/no-xp-support-extension-for-china-7000026947/
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    Re: News - Windows XP will continue to get security updates in China

    I still use XP (really need to upgrade!)

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