News - Adobe fixes Creative Cloud outage, sorry for full day lockout

[Funkstar]

I've got the LR/PS combo on the special deal for under £9/month and that works for me.

Shelling out the £100 for the LR upgrade just wasn't happening in one go, something else always came up to spend the money on. And I would never have gotten the money together for a legit copy of Photoshop.

It would be great if it was more like HP rather than pure software rental, even if the total payout was a little higher than the retail price. I would be happy with that. But as it is, it suits me fine. I would also like it if you could add an app at a time or something, just paying for the parts of the suite you actually need.

[Saracen]

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Shelling out the £100 for the LR upgrade just wasn't happening in one go ....

How much?

Any version upgrade to LR5 currently £57.64 or so, direct. Cheaper if you shop around. Hell, full version is just under £75 from Amazon and it was less than that a few weeks ago.

Photoshop is a different matter, and that deal you're on isn't bad value at all. Personally, I'm not renting software from them, period, good deal or not. But it isn't bad value at all.

[virtuo]

I still run CS4 at home, it feels faster than the new versions, and feature-wise doesn't really seem that far behind. A designer/photographer using the latest cloud version isn't going to pull anything off better or faster than they would in an older boxed version, specially when Adobe has took a nosedive for the day.

Had the Cloud version for a short period at work, but they couldn't justify the cost for creating a few graphic assets for sites (and it didn't like our proxy). Using GIMP now, It's awful (and counter-intuitive coming from Photoshop), but generally gets the job done with a bit of perseverance.

[Funkstar]

How much?

Any version upgrade to LR5 currently £57.64 or so, direct. Cheaper if you shop around. Hell, full version is just under £75 from Amazon and it was less than that a few weeks ago.

I guess it must have been previous versions that were £150 for the full version and £100 for the upgrade.

Photoshop is a different matter, and that deal you're on isn't bad value at all.

I'm not sure I would do it for anything else. Perhaps if I was in the position to need any other large creative package (CAD, 3D, video editing, effects, music production... something like that) then I would think about it.

[Saracen]

Oh, Adobe cut the price on Lightroom significantly, I think when v4 was released. It same down from £200+ to around the £100, for the full version. And, obviously, less for the upgrade.

My guess, and it's only that, is that they're going after the domestic/enthusiast market with LR, and that LR and/or Elements is intended to be the consumer offering, and LR and/or Photoshop is intended to be the pro offering aimed largely at designers, commercial printing, etc.

It begs the question, to me anyway, of whether MOST non-business users actually need Photoshop? I mean, Elements covers a fair bit of what amateurs, etc, need. I wonder how many non-commercial users use Photoshop because it's "the" pixel-poking application, and how many really need it?

I've been using Photoshop since, I think, v3 in, what, 1994-ish, having switched from Micrografx Picture Publisher, which I used for several years. But in reality, I can do either everything or very nearly everything I need in Elements, or even in LR, and much of it a lot easier than in PS.

Photoshop would be my weapon of choice, not least due to having used it for 20 years, or so. But I'm not, personally, going rental for it, ever. There are other options for me, not all of them Adobe.

[Funkstar]

It begs the question, to me anyway, of whether MOST non-business users actually need Photoshop? I mean, Elements covers a fair bit of what amateurs, etc, need. I wonder how many non-commercial users use Photoshop because it's "the" pixel-poking application, and how many really need it?

I don't need Photoshop, and could probably use Elements. I should probably try it. If it has a similar menu structure and short cuts I could probably get on with it. I've been using PS on and off since about 1998 and I'm lazy, so I con't be bothered to re-learn everything.