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    News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Report shows that next gen Sony and Microsoft systems are relatively power thirsty.
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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    This is odd. Modern hardware is meant to be energy efficient. Look at the TDP if the new Intel chips, for instance

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    "Connected Standby" it's what's using the big chunk of juice over a year. My PS4 goes off at the wall switch when it's off so you can reduce that cost/waste easily.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    This is odd. Modern hardware is meant to be energy efficient.
    It is - as the article says:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hexus
    the NRDC historical chart shows that previous generation Sony and Microsoft launch consoles used considerably more juice than the next gen launch consoles.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    So it looks like standby uses a large proportion of the energy consumed. The new Xbox One is particularly bad for sucking up electricity when in standby, as it's waiting to hear the magic words 'Xbox On'.
    I still can't see the big deal over switching an XB on with voice only - how much effort does it really take if they put a touch-sensitive power button on the top of the Kinect? Heck, even add a stroke gesture - go left-to-right to switch on, right-to-left to switch off if you want something "futuristic".
    Also consider that if you want to use your new console to watch a film, then it will be using "30 to 45 times more power to stream a movie than a dedicated Apple TV or Google Chromecast".
    Ouch! Be interesting to hear how these addon boxes compare to whatever's built in to a "smart tv".


    What I'd find interesting would be if someone could do a similar "power budget" for the move from feature phones to smartphones. Don't know about anyone else, but I always seem to have at least one uUSB charger plugged in charging something - if it's not the phone, then it's a bluetooth device, or a tablet, or a portable media player, or a backup battery pack, or ...

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    The power consumption is well under 150W at full load when gaming:

    http://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2014...a4445e39d2.png



    Compare that to many gaming PCs,and you are still looking at lower power consumption.

    My SB Xeon E3 1220(which has a lower power draw than a typical SB Core i5) and a GTX660 in a mini-ITX based system still draws upto 200W at the wall when gaming.


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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    I don't see how you can blame voice activation for standby usage when Google phones can respond to "OK Google" at considerably less than the 15W that the graph seems to imply.

    Wii-U is currently my platform of choice for Netflix, so nice to see those lowish numbers. OFC, the low navigation usage does mean it takes ages to get the app running.

    Interesting to see the Wii-U has lower standby than the Wii.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Standby modes have always annoyed me - when I press off I mean off. This includes TVs, consoles, laptops, anything that doesn't have a very good reason to default to standby when not in use (digibox recorders for example). It should be an option sure but not the default.

    Even so, going by the historical comparison chart I'd say it's a fairly safe assumption that the various iterations of Microsoft's and Sony's consoles will bring the power consumption down quite considerably. The Kinect-less XBO has probably taken a step on the way there already.


    Also...
    Netflix and navigation power useage - how can they be -that- close? Netflix is actually drawing less power than the menu for the WiiU!

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenfurter View Post
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    Netflix and navigation power useage - how can they be -that- close? Netflix is actually drawing less power than the menu for the WiiU!
    Startup menu has lots of little Mii people running around the screen with speech bubbles in some pointless attempt at a social network thing on top of drawing the actual menu icons on the tablet screen.

    I wonder for the Wii-U if they include the power the tablet is consuming.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Compare that to many gaming PCs,and you are still looking at lower power consumption.
    Would agree with Cat here, I have an Intel i5 o/c to 4Ghz, ATI290, 8GB RAM, 2xSSDs and a single HDD. When I am running at full load playing BF4 for instance, i pull 300-350 Watt.

    LOL at sensasional title "Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations", that would mean all serious PC gamers would need 4 full power stations each also!

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    Quote Originally Posted by realstock View Post
    Would agree with Cat here, I have an Intel i5 o/c to 4Ghz, ATI290, 8GB RAM, 2xSSDs and a single HDD. When I am running at full load playing BF4 for instance, i pull 300-350 Watt.

    LOL at sensasional title "Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations", that would mean all serious PC gamers would need 4 full power stations each also!
    I would argue the fact that most people who have a games console will also still require a computer ( or a laptop ). So you could deduct the energy usage of an "average" computer from the power draw of your system and not feel guilty

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by realstock View Post
    Would agree with Cat here, I have an Intel i5 o/c to 4Ghz, ATI290, 8GB RAM, 2xSSDs and a single HDD. When I am running at full load playing BF4 for instance, i pull 300-350 Watt.

    LOL at sensasional title "Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations", that would mean all serious PC gamers would need 4 full power stations each also!
    since the average R9 290 uses 250w when gaimg , your saying the rest of your pc uses less than 100watts? nah that's BS

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Startup menu has lots of little Mii people running around the screen with speech bubbles in some pointless attempt at a social network thing on top of drawing the actual menu icons on the tablet screen.

    I wonder for the Wii-U if they include the power the tablet is consuming.
    Aah OK. So it's less "good job Netflix" and more "WTH Nintendo!?" then.
    Interesting point on the tablet too. If it was included looks like Wii U does a pretty good job of staying 'eco'(ish). I guess that's the advantage of hitting for last-gen graphics with new-gen hardware. Haha.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by HalloweenJack View Post
    since the average R9 290 uses 250w when gaimg
    It doesn't use anything like that much when gaming.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Quote Originally Posted by HalloweenJack View Post
    since the average R9 290 uses 250w when gaimg , your saying the rest of your pc uses less than 100watts? nah that's BS
    Since the average could include wattage numbers varying from 200 to 300 (for example), it is entirely plausible.

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    Re: News - Energy use of US games consoles to require four full power stations

    Why use apple tv or chromecast as media examples when media streaming boxes have been around much longer than those - WDTV, popcorn player to name 2 big ones

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