News - Valve delays Steam Machine launch until 2015

[HEXUS]

The delay appears to be largely because of Steam Controller design considerations.

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[davesom555]

This should also mean the ability to use Broadwell and a newer generation of graphics cards = better thermals / processing power = smaller cheaper hardware perhaps...

[Roobubba]

I really couldn't give 2 hoots about the controller. I'll be sticking with keyboard and mouse for the foreseeable future, but then I'm one of those old stick-in-the-mud PC gamer snobs. I like my fast-paced, twitch shooters, and you simply cannot play them with a controller to anything like the same level as with a mouse and keyboard.

[jimbouk]

I really couldn't give 2 hoots about the controller. I'll be sticking with keyboard and mouse for the foreseeable future, but then I'm one of those old stick-in-the-mud PC gamer snobs. I like my fast-paced, twitch shooters, and you simply cannot play them with a controller to anything like the same level as with a mouse and keyboard.

And you're exactly the sort of person this is not aimed at

They must get the controller right, it is the one thing that stops PC gaming hitting the couch and big screen in peoples homes. Gutted it's delayed though, assuming I could buy a controller separately that is.

[crossy]

I really couldn't give 2 hoots about the controller. I'll be sticking with keyboard and mouse for the foreseeable future, but then I'm one of those old stick-in-the-mud PC gamer snobs. I like my fast-paced, twitch shooters, and you simply cannot play them with a controller to anything like the same level as with a mouse and keyboard.

Horses for courses time imho. There's some games where you just need the precision of a mouse, (keyboard is a bit more arguable for me). On the other side there's others that just feel "wrong" without a controller.
I'm playing Wolfenstein:NewOrder at the moment with kbd+mouse and there's some occasions where I'm in "finger spider" territory (where you end up having to press umpteen different keys to get a particular action AND operate the mouse at the same time).
For the other viewpoint I was playing Just Cause 2 at the weekend, and my XBox (for PC) controller definitely makes it a lot easier to "get into" that game. Keyboard controls for driving etc just feel utterly clunky.

Like jimbouk, I'd assumed that the controller wasn't going to be a SteamBox exclusive. Then again, if I can use my XBox/PC controller then I'm not so bothered about a dedicated Valve controller. Props to Valve for being brave enough to say "this isn't right yet, so we're delaying". Downside is that there'll undoubtedly be a lot of press saying "SteamOS is dead, go buy Windows".

[Saracen]

And you're exactly the sort of person this is not aimed at

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Me too.

Given the anticipated hardware requirements, If I'm buying a "PC" with that sort of price tag, I expect it to be a LOT more than a glorified console, and a whole lot less locked in.

Add, of course, I never have and never will buy any game that requires Steam. Ever.

I suspect that makes me the perfect example of who it's not aimed at.

A PC that is open and I can do what I wish with, yes. A console tightly targeted at gaming, yes. A Steam hybrid, hell no.

YMMV .... and probably will.

[GeorgeStorm]

Potentially interested in the controller, not a lot else, since whilst most of my games are on Steam, not all are, and so even for the media PC connected to the TV I wouldn't want to be locked into Steam.

Not really bothered about everything being pushed back as the xbox 360 controller does a pretty decent job, don't think it will do the whole steam machine/OS platform any favours though.

[anselhelm]

And you're exactly the sort of person this is not aimed at

....

Me too.

Given the anticipated hardware requirements, If I'm buying a "PC" with that sort of price tag, I expect it to be a LOT more than a glorified console, and a whole lot less locked in.

Add, of course, I never have and never will buy any game that requires Steam. Ever.

I suspect that makes me the perfect example of who it's not aimed at.

A PC that is open and I can do what I wish with, yes. A console tightly targeted at gaming, yes. A Steam hybrid, hell no.

YMMV .... and probably will.

Is it Steam specifically or any gaming service like Steam (such as EA's Origin) that you're against?

(Not flaming or criticising. Genuinely curious.)

[Brewster0101]

I wonder if the controller is the real reason for this delay...

I would say the market is not right for them to release this product yet.

[DemonHighwayman]

I wonder if the controller is the real reason for this delay...

I would say the market is not right for them to release this product yet.

I was wondering if the real reason was that SteamOS is still nowhere near complete ! each to there own and other peoples alternatives certainly can get you thinking !

[shaithis]

I guess this saves AMD the embarrassment of delays due to their drivers!

[TooNice]

They must get the controller right, it is the one thing that stops PC gaming hitting the couch and big screen in peoples homes.

Hmm, I agree that they must get the controller right if they are to have a chance to get into the console market, but I don't really think that is what stops from making PC gaming hit the couch/big screen. The XBox360/PS3 controllers has worked fine on a PCs for years now. There are many reasons stopping PC gaming hitting the couch, but I don't think this is really the main one.