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Well I have to say that I'm just about at laptop upgrade point with the 512gb and given Crucial's SSD reliability I think this is looking good.
Of course I'm perfect you just need to lower your expectations.
I'm guessing due to the higher latencies the first generation of DDR4 will be slower than the current best DDR3 modules.
Consumer grade DDR4 .... oodles of bandwidth .... come on AMD, get the DDR4 supporting APUs out ASAP!
Depends on what you mean by slower. It looks like they're starting DDR4 at 3000MT/s, so one stick of that will provide almost as much bandwidth as dual channel DDR3-1600. Compared to enthusiast grade DDR3 it will probably benchmark slower, but there are hardly any computing tasks that are RAM bandwidth limited anyway, so in real terms you probably won't notice the difference (the same way that triple and quad channel DDR3 on s1366/2011 dosn't make any real difference). Plus as you keep adding DDR4 sticks you keep getting more bandwidth, so when we get it on mainstream platforms is will start making a huge difference fairly quickly.Originally Posted by Badbonji
Obviously the main thing that's currently bandwidth limited is IGP performance, particularly for AMD. A Kaveri platform with 2 sticks of DDR4-3000 will have half as much bandwidth again as the current dual channel DDR3-2133 setup, and with 3 sticks will have more than twice the bandwidth of the current setup. I guess in laptops it'll be even more noticable, because it's rare to get higher than DDR3-1600 in laptops, whereas by the looks of it Crucial will be doing DDR4-3000 SODIMMs up front.
Think the RAM will only make a major difference with Laptops and APU builds right?, DDR3 will be fine for everything else for a fair while surely.
I'm looking forward to ddr4, not because of speed but because of capacity.... it's looking like you should be able to get 16-32GB on a stick, versus the current 8GB, we get now at 'reasonable' prices. For someone who can use a lot of ram etc this is great
In regards the ssd... I want to see some benchmarks before full judgement but honestly that doesn't look that much of a bargain again
My sentiments exactly! I'm hoping excavator will use DDR4 next year too.
Last edited by The Hand; 03-06-2014 at 05:02 PM.
512gb for 160!! wow
Yep, I shall look forward to the day when I can get a 4TB SSD for just £50.
And that's MSRP!
With 550/500MB and 90000 IOPS why is this MX100 512GB so cheap?
And if DDR4 is available in august...does that mean X99 and haswell-e will be available then to?
Except DDR3 is just about dead. Manufacturers have lowered production considerably over a year ago. Guess why most DDR3 RAM is now almost double the price of what it used to be..?
As an example: most 2x8GB DDR3-1600 kits went from 70eur average to 130eur average.
This is the main reason why I've maxed out my i5 with 32GB DDR3 while it was still cheap (read: ages ago). I was in the following situation twice (DDR and DDR2) and didn't want to let that happen again..
"you can upgrade your RAM later on when you need it"
[fast forward a few years]
"oh cr*p.. it now costs over twice of what it used to.. no upgrade for me then :("
Last edited by Bambooz; 10-06-2014 at 07:30 PM.
So long as they make DDR4 in their Tactical Tracer edition, I'll buy the biggest boatload I can afford!!
2 x 512MB SSD in RAID for a games drive, perhaps?
I seem to recall reading that SSDs didn't need/do well in RAID, or something, despite the vid where someone puts 24 in and gets blinding performance... ?
RAID in that context is improving the raw throughput, which is mostly irrelevant for games and other such programs (a single SSD is blindly fast).
You also reach a limit where the IOPS increase won't matter....as you come no where near to using the existing amount.
So yeah....blindingly fast in benchmarks. Little to no use for home users.
And *again* I type MB instead of GB... WTH is wrong with this keyboard??!!
I was thinking more of just having a large enough drive to keep all my games installed and ready to go, but fast enough that I can seriously reduce* the lag time I get when levels and scenes load/transition mid-game on my current HDD.
*Reduce, not eliminate... not by a long shot. Especially seeing as I'd need a much faster Mobo, CPU and RAM in order to achieve that, anyway!
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