Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 20

Thread: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    28,815
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1,864 times in 637 posts

    News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    The trade-in program is the company's latest strategy to promote the Surface.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,147
    Thanks
    798
    Thanked
    2,151 times in 1,407 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Well if I had one nocking about I'd definately take the trade in.

    For me the iFixit scores are rather meaningless. For instance the iPad Air is 2 out of 10, vs 1 out of 10.

    The point is it's not going to be opened up by me and my trusty swiss army knife, compared to say my Series 9 ultrabook which sadly I'll be taking apart tonight to replace a worn out SSD.

    If you have a screen with very little gap between digitiser, you will loose repairability. I want that, so I make that choice.

    The downside is this is a shift to a computer that's ~£1k which is completely disposable. You have to really want the portability.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

  3. #3
    Theoretical Element Spud1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    North West
    Posts
    6,937
    Thanks
    246
    Thanked
    250 times in 195 posts
    • Spud1's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Mac Pro
      • CPU:
      • 2x 2.8ghz Quad Core Xeons (octo-core)
      • Memory:
      • 4gb DDR2 FB-Dimm
      • Storage:
      • 1x1TB, 1x320gb, 2x500gb, 1x250gb, 120GB SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Nvidia Geforce 560Ti
      • PSU:
      • Mac pro PSU
      • Case:
      • Mac Pro Case
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8
      • Monitor(s):
      • 1x22" LG 3D TFT 1x 19" ViewSonic
      • Internet:
      • 80mb BT Infinity

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Shame this isn't an option in the UK I'd be quite willing to take them up on this with my Air!

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    321
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    27 times in 18 posts
    • Brian224's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i5-2500K
      • Memory:
      • 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 840 SSD 120GB, Seagate 2TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX760 4GB
      • PSU:
      • 650W EZCool Silent
      • Case:
      • Corsair Graphite 230T
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Professional 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 3 x Acer G226HQLBbd
      • Internet:
      • 30 Mb cable (Virgin Media)

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    At the launch Microsoft appeared to target the MacBook Air. It looks like they really meant it.

  5. #5
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,147
    Thanks
    798
    Thanked
    2,151 times in 1,407 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian224 View Post
    At the launch Microsoft appeared to target the MacBook Air. It looks like they really meant it.
    For me it will be replacing an early 2012 samsung series 9. Lighter n smaller.

    If I'm doing a long stint, I'll bring a full size keyboard anyway, or buy one if away from home, just the cheapo kind that cost £10 mind.

    I'm not sold yet, I'll only buy one if I'm in Singapore or the USA soon, because the version I'd be after is £1.3k in the UK or just under £1K in Singapore, so it's not just VAT.

    If it was £999 for the model I'd want, including the keyboard, I'd push the button and buy now, but as is, it's just a shade to expensive.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Bristol, United Kingdom
    Posts
    195
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked
    9 times in 6 posts
    • smithy1158's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 Intel P35 Chipset
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core2Duo E4300 overclocked @ 3.2GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB DDR2 @ 800MHz Corsair XMS2 (2x2GB)
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Seagate Barracuda sataII, 120GB Western Digital
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX NVIDIA GTX 260 896MB 216 Core
      • PSU:
      • 650W Xigmatek NRP-MC651
      • Case:
      • Antec P182 Gunmetal Black Edition
      • Operating System:
      • Windows Vista 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" LG W2242 DVI-D / 19" Kingston Tech DVI/VGA
      • Internet:
      • 2Mg ADSL Broadband

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    I would NEVER EVER trade in my Macbook Air for one of those things. Jesus Christ this is the most retarded thing I've ever heard...
    "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    - Douglas Adams.

  7. #7
    Admin (Ret'd)
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    18,481
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    3,208 times in 2,281 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Well, seeing as I don't have a Macbook, air or not, and emphatically don't want a Surface Pro 3, this one rather passes me by.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    544
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    26 times in 21 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by smithy1158 View Post
    I would NEVER EVER trade in my Macbook Air for one of those things. Jesus Christ this is the most retarded thing I've ever heard...
    This is the most retarded thing I've ever read. ;-)

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    2,930
    Thanks
    396
    Thanked
    362 times in 252 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Is it just me then that thinks this is Microsoft saying the Surface Pro 3 only matches a MacBook Air once it's discounted by $650 ?

  10. Received thanks from:

    Fraz (24-06-2014),smithy1158 (24-06-2014)

  11. #10
    Senior Member Brewster0101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,614
    Thanks
    45
    Thanked
    54 times in 44 posts
    • Brewster0101's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus m5a99x evo
      • CPU:
      • AMD FX 8350
      • Memory:
      • 8GB (2x4) Corsair Vengence DDR3 1600mghz
      • Storage:
      • Western Green 3TB + Samsung 850Evo 512MB SSD, + 2TB NAS
      • Graphics card(s):
      • MSI 280X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AXi760
      • Case:
      • Corsair 650D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG 27" 27EA63 IPS LED
      • Internet:
      • 120Mb Bt

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    So I guess Microsoft will be handing MacBook Air's as Christmas bonuses this year.

  12. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Bristol, United Kingdom
    Posts
    195
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked
    9 times in 6 posts
    • smithy1158's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 Intel P35 Chipset
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core2Duo E4300 overclocked @ 3.2GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB DDR2 @ 800MHz Corsair XMS2 (2x2GB)
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Seagate Barracuda sataII, 120GB Western Digital
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX NVIDIA GTX 260 896MB 216 Core
      • PSU:
      • 650W Xigmatek NRP-MC651
      • Case:
      • Antec P182 Gunmetal Black Edition
      • Operating System:
      • Windows Vista 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" LG W2242 DVI-D / 19" Kingston Tech DVI/VGA
      • Internet:
      • 2Mg ADSL Broadband

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    I would agree that the latest Macbook Air's (2014) are underpowered compared to what they can be. This is so people buy the retina Macbook Pro's. When the retina's first came out, the Air's were just as powerful and a lot better designed than the retina's (thanks to many improvements over the years). This is pretty bad on Apple's part.

    I have a 1.8GHz i5 Macbook Air and I have been using it as a development machine through my final year as a Comp Sci undergrad. My dissertation used CPU and memory intensive AI and natural language processing techniques, which the air handled fine.

    The Air's build quality is astounding and is quite possibly the best in any laptop ever produced. The unibody shell is strong, resilient and the whole thing acts like heatsink. It's light and definitely as portable as the surface. Battery life is just as good as the surface.

    The surface however doesn't even come with a keyboard. And with the (crappy) novelty keyboard factored in it is as expensive as a Macbook Air.

    Macbook's are favoured as development machines all over the world for they're UNIX compatibility. Mac OS X is BSD UNIX and even the Apple extension of it (Darwin) is completely open source.

    You can also install and run Windows natively and virtualise it running it side by side with OS X. It just supports everything and thats what you need in a development machine.
    "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    - Douglas Adams.

  13. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    251
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    11 times in 10 posts
    • CampGareth's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ?
      • CPU:
      • Intel core i7 3740QM @ 2.7-4.1GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16GB corsair/samsung 1600MHz SODIMM
      • Storage:
      • 1x240GB Intel 335 SSD, 1x250GB samsung 5400rpm HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Dual GTX680Ms in sli
      • PSU:
      • 300W brick
      • Case:
      • Clevo P370EM
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 ultimate
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" Crossover 2720MDP 2560x1440 IPS, Cibox 22" 1680x1050 TN, internal 17.3" 1080p LG matte
      • Internet:
      • Ask4 50/6 fibre

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by smithy1158 View Post
    I would agree that the latest Macbook Air's (2014) are underpowered compared to what they can be. This is so people buy the retina Macbook Pro's. When the retina's first came out, the Air's were just as powerful and a lot better designed than the retina's (thanks to many improvements over the years). This is pretty bad on Apple's part.

    I have a 1.8GHz i5 Macbook Air and I have been using it as a development machine through my final year as a Comp Sci undergrad. My dissertation used CPU and memory intensive AI and natural language processing techniques, which the air handled fine.

    The Air's build quality is astounding and is quite possibly the best in any laptop ever produced. The unibody shell is strong, resilient and the whole thing acts like heatsink. It's light and definitely as portable as the surface. Battery life is just as good as the surface.

    The surface however doesn't even come with a keyboard. And with the (crappy) novelty keyboard factored in it is as expensive as a Macbook Air.

    Macbook's are favoured as development machines all over the world for they're UNIX compatibility. Mac OS X is BSD UNIX and even the Apple extension of it (Darwin) is completely open source.

    You can also install and run Windows natively and virtualise it running it side by side with OS X. It just supports everything and thats what you need in a development machine.
    Airs do have a few shortcomings though, the main one that I've seen is the screen. 1440x900 maximum in 2014 is just crazy, that's not enough screen real estate for putting multiple windows on screen at once. It makes me think that maybe the retina macbook pros are made for working professionals and the airs are built for, well, anyone else. A surface pro 3, or heck even a pro 2 beats the airs for screen resolution and quality. If it matters number 3 also beats an air for weight (800g vs 1.08kg or 1.35kg).

    Personally, I wouldn't really buy an air, if I'm buying a macbook it has to be something top notch like a pro retina 15. A surface pro 3 kinda slips through the net because of the different form factor, so if it came down to it I probably would buy one... I'd just buy one with a warranty extended until the death of the sun because there is no way I could ever replace that battery.

  14. #13
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,147
    Thanks
    798
    Thanked
    2,151 times in 1,407 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by smithy1158 View Post
    Macbook's are favoured as development machines all over the world for they're UNIX compatibility. Mac OS X is BSD UNIX and even the Apple extension of it (Darwin) is completely open source.
    LOL

    (Not sure if you believe that, or if your view of the world is just from univeristy)
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

  15. #14
    Get in the van. Fraz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    2,919
    Thanks
    284
    Thanked
    397 times in 231 posts
    • Fraz's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A-UD5
      • CPU:
      • Watercooled i7-980X @ 4.2 GHz
      • Memory:
      • 24GB Crucial DDR3-1333
      • Storage:
      • 240 GB Vertex2E + 2 TB of Disk
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Water-cooled Sapphire 7970 @ 1175/1625
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Modu87+
      • Case:
      • Corsair 700D
      • Operating System:
      • Linux Mint 12 / Windows 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 30" 3008WFP and two Dell 24" 2412M
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 60 Mbps

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    LOL

    (Not sure if you believe that, or if your view of the world is just from univeristy)
    Seem like two reasonable statements to me. For the last ~10 years, literally every programmer I know has chosen a Mac, largely for its Unix compatibility and corresponding ease of developing that kind of software. I guess it depends on the industry you work in, but Windows really is an abysmal platform to work on if you spend all day working with and developing software for Linux machines. Sure, you can buy a PC laptop running Linux, but the polish and usability just isn't there.

  16. #15
    Admin team peterb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Southampton
    Posts
    19,340
    Thanks
    2,879
    Thanked
    3,389 times in 2,682 posts
    • peterb's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Nascom 2
      • CPU:
      • Z80B
      • Memory:
      • 48K 8 bit memory on separate card
      • Storage:
      • Audio cassette tape - home built 5.25" floppy drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • text output (composite video)
      • PSU:
      • Home built
      • Case:
      • Home built
      • Operating System:
      • Nas-sys
      • Monitor(s):
      • 12" monocrome composite video input
      • Internet:
      • No networking capability on this machine

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Is it just me then that thinks this is Microsoft saying the Surface Pro 3 only matches a MacBook Air once it's discounted by $650 ?
    Or desperation on Microsoft's part.

    Of course, it might prompt Apple to offer a trade in to a Retina Macbook Pro- now that would be worth having!
    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (")_(")

    Been helped or just 'Like' a post? Use the Thanks button!
    My broadband speed - 750 Meganibbles/minute

  17. #16
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,147
    Thanks
    798
    Thanked
    2,151 times in 1,407 posts

    Re: News - Microsoft offers $650 off Surface Pro 3 with MacBook Air trade-in

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    Seem like two reasonable statements to me. For the last ~10 years, literally every programmer I know has chosen a Mac, largely for its Unix compatibility and corresponding ease of developing that kind of software. I guess it depends on the industry you work in, but Windows really is an abysmal platform to work on if you spend all day working with and developing software for Linux machines. Sure, you can buy a PC laptop running Linux, but the polish and usability just isn't there.
    For most dev's I know, it's only been in the last ~4 years that they've been able to stand using a laptop spec hardware.

    When it comes to platforms again it really depends where you are working, the issue is having a central policy of any kind on a mac is an exercise in frustration. Not to mention the complete lack of any security options, at all.

    This is why most places use those big cheap lenovos, TPMs and SmartCard / BioMetrics as standard, along with a slab of bendy plastic.

    Now when it comes to designer devs, people doing say HTML/CSS/JS then yeah, most of them do use OSX but almost all of those I know (only 1 doesn't) use MBP because the air is so poo.

    In fact last November I found myself nursing the sorrow of the loss of my mobile phone in a bar in Siagon, another guy who was a dev was doing the working from the back packer trail. The fact is he was envious of my 2012 samsung series 9, as it was smaller, lighter and better screened than the air. The difference in CPU of newer generation was minimal, it was mostly in battery life which the air had an extra 2 hours off, oh and a better track pad if you never right click. But overall it just didn't cut the mustard, he was quite frustrated and ended up buying a new Laptop in Da Nang (that is a fun experience if you only know very basic Vietnamese!).

    So in the context of Airs I don't know anyone who uses them.

    If you get rid of the one man shop type places, no one really uses them, they aren't value for money, they have security problems.

    Now this is why it's interesting to see MS go after the Air in such a way. Myself I think it's because MS suffer from brand association with your workplace. The crippled desktop, decades out of date, with horrific propriety software, people expect that to be the Windows experience. I think what MS are doing here is creating a halo product, that is gunning for the not too technical persons halo apple products. The fun thing is it's not really the Air, it's the iPad and the Air.

    The Air is a bit of a gimped product, it's screen is really rather bad, it reminds me of a canon/nikon crop body camera, it could easily be more, but they don't want to hurt the sales of the higher ticket item by letting it have the features it should.

    In that context, going after the Air is really quite srewed, it has a user that needs something more than an iPad, but yet didn't need much more, it's a selecting market of users who are not technically too demanding, but valuing portability, yet not enough to compromise for an iPad.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •