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    News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Also its Patch Tuesday updates fix two critical Remote Code Execution flaws in IE/Windows.
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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    While you are updating you might as well check that you have the latest Flash plugin (14,0,0,145 ) as this popular plugin was subject to a Priority 1 update yesterday.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    I guess they don't want another XP situation, although i can't see many people warming to the direction Microsoft is taking Windows.
    Rumors are saying Windows 9 is going to require a Microsoft account to activate it, don't fancy having my credit card details and such stored with Microsoft, or the ability for Microsoft to deactivate my copy of Windows when ever they choose.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Is it just me, or does 5 years seem like too short a time span to support an operating system? I realise the rate of new tech adoption is faster these days, but there will be some people would bought Windows 7 machines potentially less than 2 years ago (pre-Windows 8 release) now looking at their PC not obtaining security updates within 3 years of purchase.

    Although debatable, given Microsoft's domination of the desktop environment, I would've expected security support for a minimum of 5 years after the product is discontinued. Surely that would be a more sensible measure of how long a product is supported, instead of initial release date, to give customers a degree of confidence when purchasing.

    I realise this isn't going to be practical for all situations, maybe some kind of scaling for support time span could be implemented based on market share or units sold?

    Given Microsoft's size and customer base I think they need to take more responsibility for these products.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Security support is still there until 2019. What you might not see is other things like new versions of IE working under Windows 7.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    I do not even use IE, so it is allright. Unless they release a better version of Windows, they can talk about ending support as much as they want. I know a ton of people who are still using XP because it is good enough. Even though they stopped supporting it. It's not like their support is overly important for a regular user. If you are a power user, it is a different story alltogether.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    I guess they don't want another XP situation, although i can't see many people warming to the direction Microsoft is taking Windows.
    Rumors are saying Windows 9 is going to require a Microsoft account to activate it, don't fancy having my credit card details and such stored with Microsoft, or the ability for Microsoft to deactivate my copy of Windows when ever they choose.
    Microsoft have had the ability to deactivate copies of Windows for a long time. It's the entire basis of WGA's anti-piracy tools.

    However, I run Windows 8 on my desktops, and honestly, running with a Microsoft account (versus a local account) is pretty good. Any time I choose to reinstall Windows, on any desktop, it pulls in all my settings, downloads my installed stuff from the Windows store, and keeps everything in sync. My Microsoft account is just my old hotmail email address.

    As for credit card info, not sure what that's in reference to. I've not put any of my card numbers into Windows 8, or my email account.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Thanks CAT, at least that's some comfort.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Security support is still there until 2019. What you might not see is other things like new versions of IE working under Windows 7.
    This bit of information appears to be completely lacking in the article.

    The difference between free mainstream support and still having security support is the point. In much the same way windows XP didn't support many great software features, some that I'm going to be coding against today, but still had security.

    If the windows 7 today does exactly what you need, the windows 7 in 2015 should still too. Unless you need new functionality, in which case, you will have to pay. 5 years of mainstream support is a fairly good deal, 10 years of security critical support is a bargain.

    Compare it to say Solaris or OSX. Hell OSX is awful, if you don't buy the new version, you might find your three year old device with well known critical security bugs.
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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickWill View Post
    ....

    However, I run Windows 8 on my desktops, and honestly, running with a Microsoft account (versus a local account) is pretty good. Any time I choose to reinstall Windows, on any desktop, it pulls in all my settings, downloads my installed stuff from the Windows store, and keeps everything in sync. My Microsoft account is just my old hotmail email address.

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    And that's exactly why I won't use an MS account. I don't want MS storing ANY information about me, or my systems. If I did, it certainly wouldn't be a Hotmail address.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickWill View Post
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    As for credit card info, not sure what that's in reference to. I've not put any of my card numbers into Windows 8, or my email account.
    Presumably, as soon as you buy anything from MS store.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    If the windows 7 today does exactly what you need, the windows 7 in 2015 should still too. Unless you need new functionality, in which case, you will have to pay. 5 years of mainstream support is a fairly good deal, 10 years of security critical support is a bargain.
    I would say 5 years of support should be expected *from the time you bought it*. For most people an OS is an exciting as buying a toaster, possibly less so, and most people don't know or care how old the design of their toaster was when they bought it.

    So if this is just trying to set people's expectations then that is all fine, but if MS are still selling it, the end of support clock shouldn't be ticking.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickWill View Post
    Microsoft have had the ability to deactivate copies of Windows for a long time. It's the entire basis of WGA's anti-piracy tools.

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    As for credit card info, not sure what that's in reference to. I've not put any of my card numbers into Windows 8, or my email account.
    Can Microsoft deactivate someones copy of Windows after it has been activated ? Because if so IDK that.

    Sorry i should have gone into more details. Rumors are suggesting that Windows 9 is going to drop the typical activation key that you get when you buy a copy of Windows and instead tie your copy of Windows to the PC hardware and your Microsoft Store account. BetaNews goes into more details on what the Russian leaker WZor revealed about it recently, basicly it seems Windows is heading down the same path as Office 365, with monthly subscriptions.

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Windows OS is very much past its sell by date MS needs to work on better OS coding and make it so its universal rather than specific to one OS code, something similar to Open source code with security tagging for the purpose of traceability against scammers and malware hackers....

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    Security patches up to 2019/2020, no problems with that, 10 years of support is pretty decent and should be enough time for game developers to move to Linux

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    Re: News - Microsoft warns mainstream Windows 7 support ends Jan 2015

    [QUOTE=Saracen;32And that's exactly why I won't use an MS account. I don't want MS storing ANY information about me, or my systems. If I did, it certainly wouldn't be a Hotmail address.[/QUOTE]
    1) You can still use Windows 8 without a microsoft account (though the option is a bit obtuse: you need to select 'create a new microsoft account' which will then reveal the otpion to install without an account)
    2) My MS account uses a Gmail address rather than Hotmail.

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