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    News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    The redesigned model's price stays the same at $35 and it is available immediately.
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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Great stuff a model C version with slightly better CPU would be nice, enough to make the OS lag-free which is almost impossible atm

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Seems like a fairly decent final evolution for the Model B, the power management is a welcome addition.

    Not convinced with the removal of the composite video output, which I used in a few applications, and the drop down to microSD seems a bit pointless (specially since I have loads of SD Cards lying around compared to very few microSDs).

    Worst of all, my pi cases won't survive the update, which is annoying considering they can cost almost as much as the board itself..

    At least they will continue to manufacture the "standard" Model B for the forseeable future.

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Again, I still don't see the problem, that the Pi is the solution too...
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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by virtuo View Post
    Not convinced with the removal of the composite video output
    It's been merged into the audio connector, not removed

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Again, I still don't see the problem, that the Pi is the solution too...
    That isn't how electronic products work.

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by failquail View Post
    It's been merged into the audio connector, not removed
    I did spot that when I re-read the statement, but.. I've used the yellow RCA socket on my Pis and prefer that it's separate to the audio output. Just another proprietary cable to have to plug in.

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    There was a 256MB Model B, followed up with a 512MB Model B, so doesn't make this the Model B++?

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Again, I still don't see the problem, that the Pi is the solution too...
    It's a low cost platform for learning/hacking/tinkering, always has been.

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by Gitch28 View Post
    That isn't how electronic products work.
    Quote Originally Posted by bridges009 View Post
    It's a low cost platform for learning/hacking/tinkering, always has been.
    I've grouped you both together because the Pi was originally billed as a device to help kids in school get into tinkering with computers. The issue is, if someone has a keyboard, mouse, monitor, they probably have a computer too, so why not just use virtualisation technology. You don't need a full blown linux distro to learn about Python ffs.

    Secondly, hardware hacking, the Pi sucks for this. It's expensive compared to say ardiuno, piss poor tooling compared to say a netduino, with horrifically bad ability to "talk" to devices, due to running a full blown OS. As such it lacks the hardware hacking / tinkering that you can do on a proper microprocessor that costs a tiny fraction.

    What the Pi has been a massive success for is a bunch of middle-aged geeks buying to make media centres... That's fine, but it isn't what they originally spoke about. Teaching of software development and basic digital electronic engineering is something I'm fairly passionate about, despite not teaching it for almost a decade now. Everything about the Pi's approach strikes me as wrong and missing the problem. The biggest problem is a lack of teachers who can do anything so far as use Excel.

    If they had created a great open source draw turtle language and hardware platform, with great syllabuses produced with training videos for the teachers for example, I'd be behind the hype. Instead there isn't really much that fits the remit.

    As a geek myself I like the idea of a tiny PC that I can make run RISC OS. But for it's original stated purpose and goal it's useless.

    It's worth noting that today the French announced that from 10 years old their school kiddies will be being taught procedural programming.....
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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Does anybody know whether the additional USB ports are hosted from the same controller (and therefore share the 480MBps USB2 BUS?

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    What the Pi has been a massive success for is a bunch of middle-aged geeks buying to make media centres...
    ...and piss-poor ones at that, due to the ridiculously slow hardware base and having to pay for licenses to use hardware decoders.
    From a raw performance standpoint, the CPU in an ancient iPhone 3GS is faster than a stock RPi, and the RPi can just about keep up if overclocked to 900MHz (vs. the 600MHz on the 3GS).
    Any <100eur Android tablet will perform better than the RPi and would actually be.. you know.. useful.

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by Bambooz View Post
    Any <100eur Android tablet will perform better than the RPi and would actually be.. you know.. useful.
    I sometimes feel like I'm the only one saying the emperor is naked when it comes to the Pi.

    Glad I'm not the only one here.

    It fails as a teaching device, because the problem wasn't the lack of such a device as the Pi.

    I honestly don't see what it is really good for, everyone I know who has one, has it sitting in a box, with the exception of one guy using it as a music player
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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Bit of an old thread but thought I'd chuck my tupence in. The update seems a good one, more USB, lower power, I would have preferred a seperate composite connector but hey can't have everything. I've got a B model myself, not used it much as I already have numerous laptops and computers, as for what it's for, I've used it to learn a bit about Linux and as an emulator for old arcade games connected to a TV.

    Apparently programming is on the cirriculum for 8 year olds, good luck with that, that's too young in my opinion to teach programming and doubt many primary school teachers would be capable of teaching anything useful based on what I've seen as a parent.

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    Re: News - Raspberry Pi Model B+ features 4 USB ports, lower power usage

    Quote Originally Posted by trevcjohnson View Post
    Apparently programming is on the cirriculum for 8 year olds, good luck with that, that's too young in my opinion to teach programming and doubt many primary school teachers would be capable of teaching anything useful based on what I've seen as a parent.
    Nonsense. I've taught it to 6 year olds, using flow chart langauge and fun little interaction devices. Press that button, the Lion Raws!

    Draw Turtles are brilliant too, so physical, so much can be touched, and can be programmed without using a QWERTY keyboard, just have a selection of "blocks" which make up the instruction, rotate 90, Forward 15cm and so on. Then once they've grasped that you break the blocks into two, Rotate then a number... etc. After they've got the idea of having two 'blocks' to make a 'command' you can introduce Repeat, then once they've drawn a square, you can introduce variables.
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