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    News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    "One product family, one platform, one store".
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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    The new Start Menu
    Still looks like an advert. Besides, its only "new" because they botched windows 8, this is like new coke all over again.

    Everything can run in a window
    Same with windows 386... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noEHHB6rnMI#t=351

    A task view button to give an overview of open apps and docs
    What like the thing that appears when I "alt + tab"? Its been there since XP, maybe earlier?

    Multiple (virtual) desktops
    Thats new, for windows at least.

    So out of the "new" things we've got 1 actual new thing. Maybe windows 11 will support *gasp* multitasking! And 640k of memory!

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by maxp779 View Post
    Multiple (virtual) desktops
    Thats new, for windows at least.
    No it's not.... It was just dropped as an MS supported utility accessed feature in Vista.
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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    To be fair this looks more like 8.2 than a new version number but at the same time from what I can see everything that is being done seems to be about refinement.

    New/return of the start menu - personally I had no issue with the start screen but this is for all the people who were complaining.

    Metro apps in windows - wasn't really an issue before for me but I can see the benefit of not having to 'leave metro' for desktop apps. You can also see the unification of the modern apps across ALL platforms - in my opinion this is the BIG feature because no other major OS can do this (yeah I know about Ubuntu but it's not really a major os), it's something MS have been edging towards since before win 8. It's great for metro app developers.

    The task view button is more than just alt-tab maxp779, it's more for virtual desktops, it shows each desktop, it's programs and allows you to add/remove them etc. Pretty useful when you think about it, kind of like task switching in android in a way.

    Virtual Desktops - Can't say I've ever had a need for them but it's nice to have them back.

    I'm hoping that the refinements that are being done to the OS also go down to battery usage, Windows still sucks compared with OS-X and in some cases linux in this area and it's about time they did some improvements.

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Overwhelmed - not!

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Dear Microsoft, software are not apps and don't need an app store. Please stop following Apple and releasing .1/.2 updates to your OS and call them SP1 or SP2.

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    Take features away, then bring them back later and pretend they're new. Is that what MS are resorting to now? The only reason I'll upgrade from 7 to this is to get better support for new hardware (DirectX etc), and because I have to run Windows due to some of the programs I run. Yes, PROGRAMS, not "Apps". I use a desktop computer only, with no touch screen. Not a tablet. Will MS remember that there are still plenty of us with their design choices this time round? Probably not, looking at that stupid start menu.

    What's with this generation name skipping as well? Nvidia and MS have both just done it. Who do they think they're fooling? It just adds unecessary confusion. Going from Windows 7 > 8 > 8.1 > 10 isn't going to help sales, surely?

    I think I'll give that tech demo a shot anyway. Hell, I'll even wipe W7 and just go for it!

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by ZaO View Post
    What's with this generation name skipping as well? Nvidia and MS have both just done it. Who do they think they're fooling? It just adds unecessary confusion. Going from Windows 7 > 8 > 8.1 > 10 isn't going to help sales, surely?
    Not exactly new, they skipped from Word 2.0 to Word 6.0 back in the 90's, probably because WordPerfect was on a higher number and higher numbers are better right?

    Surprised they didn't go the whole hog and call it Windows X.

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    They should have called it Windows 11, cos, you know, Spinal Tap and all that.

    OSX? Nah, Windows goes up to 11. It's one more, innit.

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    News on under the hood changes seem very thin on the ground, like if it's going to come with DX12 and will that be exclusive to 10, what changes have been made at the kernel level.
    We know Windows 8 moved to a tickless kernel are any other such technical changes in the works for 10 ?

    Eye candy changes are all well and good, but what's under the hood ?

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Windows 10??

    What happened to Windows 9??


    Those despicable Elk,stealing the pond weed!

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Windows 10??

    What happened to Windows 9??
    This perhaps?

    http://hexus.net/tech/news/software/75225-windows-9-free-upgrade-windows-8-users/

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    There is one thing in there which i am realllllly looking forward too:

    Quote Originally Posted by hexus
    These are 'Snap Enhancements' which allows users to snap (up to four) windows into a new quadrant layout (see above) for your multi-tasking fun.
    This makes me very happy.

    I quite like the 'new' start menu, but i do still hope its configurable to a certain extent, as i dont need that many tiles... infact i dont need any... i just need a list.

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    You can also see the unification of the modern apps across ALL platforms - in my opinion this is the BIG feature because no other major OS can do this (yeah I know about Ubuntu but it's not really a major os), it's something MS have been edging towards since before win 8. It's great for metro app developers.
    Ubuntu "not really a major OS", it's the 2nd most popular Linux distro, so basically what you're saying is that the "Major OSes" are Windows and OSX and that's it? Pardon me for disagreeing ... vehemently ... remember that the Microsoft statement was "Windows must exist, from IoT devices to datacentres" which means not just looking at the desktop, so I'm going to argue strongly that Linux MUST figure, hence you can't just disregard Ubuntu with a flip comment!
    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Windows 10?? What happened to Windows 9??
    Microsoft Germany didn't like it ... "Windows Nein?" (and yes, I know it'd be "Windows Neun" technically speaking)

    So far the changes look quite reasonable to me - although I'll agree with Biscuit's post #13 that a lot will depend on how configurable it is. Although, at the base level, as long as that awful context switch between MUI and desktop has been deep sixed then I'm a happy camper. Oh, and if it's easier to opt out of the "Microsoft Account" 'requirement' for logins then I'll be pleased. If I had some spare hardware then I'd give it a spin - anyone know if this'll be happy running as a VirtualBox VM?

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
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    I quite like the 'new' start menu, but i do still hope its configurable to a certain extent, as i dont need that many tiles... infact i dont need any... i just need a list.
    I'll reserve judgement on actually liking the menu until I've used it for a bit, but I'm right with you on configurability. MS did say it's "customisable" and I just hope that means customisable to zero tiles. I entirely agree with crossy about deep-sixing the context-switching. And about avoiding an MS account, which I currently can, though it's not exactly obvious that you can, unless you already know you can.

    One more thing. MS stress they see the future as being the cloud. I do not. I do not want ANY of my data on the cloud, ever, under any circumstances. Yet, MS are building cloud intetration in, to an ever-increasing extent. So, provided that integration requires me to actively do something to activate it, like creating a cloud account, to initiate ANY posdibility of data being uploaded, then I'm happy. But if my data can end up being uploaded, without my explicit specific intent, by any form of setting simply being wrong or that I haven't known about or forgotten, then that is a red-line for me. And unlike Obama, when I say red line, I mean it.

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    Re: News - Microsoft announces Windows 10 (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Dear Microsoft, software are not apps and don't need an app store. Please stop following Apple and releasing .1/.2 updates to your OS and call them SP1 or SP2.
    What are app(lipcation)s if not software and vice versa. 'App' is a marketing term, does it really matter what they call them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I quite like the 'new' start menu, but i do still hope its configurable to a certain extent, as i dont need that many tiles... infact i dont need any... i just need a list.
    This. As long as it's highly configurable for individual users but able to be locked down by enterprises for mass role outs it should be a win for everyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by crossy View Post
    Ubuntu "not really a major OS", it's the 2nd most popular Linux distro, so basically what you're saying is that the "Major OSes" are Windows and OSX and that's it? Pardon me for disagreeing ... vehemently ... remember that the Microsoft statement was "Windows must exist, from IoT devices to datacentres" which means not just looking at the desktop, so I'm going to argue strongly that Linux MUST figure, hence you can't just disregard Ubuntu with a flip comment!
    Oh, and if it's easier to opt out of the "Microsoft Account" 'requirement' for logins then I'll be pleased. If I had some spare hardware then I'd give it a spin - anyone know if this'll be happy running as a VirtualBox VM?
    Ubuntu is not a major desktop, mobile or tablet OS. However it's a big contender in the server & datacentre markets. MS is aiming at all of those with one OS. How successful they'll be will come out in time but it's fair to say that no other OS that has more than say a 2-3% share of ALL of those usage types has done it.
    I can't see MS insisting on an MS account if they're trying to appeal to big enterprise, servers etc. I'm hoping to run a VM so we'll see if it plays nice.

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