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    Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Investment analyst concludes that "All AMD has is hype, and that's just not enough."
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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Everyone says this when a new round of cards is released " Look at X's new card! That's the end of Y!"

    I hope AMD's next gen is competitive jut so that the pressure to advance technology is maintained.
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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Wait, what? I was dancing.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Not showing the rise of Intel - the market must be more than just these two players...

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    "However the writer, an investor in Nvidia stocks"

    Eh well, isn't that reason to question the whole thing here?

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Yes I would like to see AMD back on top of their game with graphics cards and processors, if only to keep the pressure on Intel who seem to be treading water recently, but was finding a mass-market for a product type that they had been working on since 2006 really just a "contractual stroke of luck"?

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    So, nvidia gaining market share in a quarter when they released new high end cards and AMD didn't, spells the death of AMD? Now that's hyperbole at its - well, most hyperbolic?

    Perhaps someone should point out to the writer that AMD has effectively removed itself from one of the highest volume segments of the AIB market - the low end - by providing low to mid range graphics in its APU range. How are nvidia doing in mobile GPU shipments this year?

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Quote Originally Posted by tonyd223 View Post
    Not showing the rise of Intel - the market must be more than just these two players...
    Add in boards? No, just those two players.

    Breaking out integrated graphics would be an interesting graph though. Intel is increasing graphics share thanks to that, and Nvidia is talking up going into automotive but I think that is only because they have taken such a hammering in the mobile space with their own integrated Tegra offering.

    Other than that, the graph starts with Nvidia on 60%, and shows one quarter ago they were still on 60%. It is a bit bumpy, with an average of, ooh, about 65%, but generally flat. So last quarter was a bit rubbish back at 60%, and it looks to me like some people who would have bought in Q2 put their purchase off until Q3 bumping that up to ~70%.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    So, nvidia gaining market share in a quarter when they released new high end cards and AMD didn't, spells the death of AMD? Now that's hyperbole at its - well, most hyperbolic?

    Perhaps someone should point out to the writer that AMD has effectively removed itself from one of the highest volume segments of the AIB market - the low end - by providing low to mid range graphics in its APU range. How are nvidia doing in mobile GPU shipments this year?
    I was just going to post that myself TBH - the low end (and high volume, as you say) discrete market for AMD is much smaller thanks to APUs offering similar or greater performance. The cheapest cards are still using VLIW5 on 40nm, it just isn't as big a market for AMD as it was. If you take integrated into account, Intel leads, followed by AMD, followed by Nvidia. You can manipulate the figures pretty much however you want in order to make a company you're investing in look better...

    Set the cutoff point a bit higher to exclude APU-level graphics and I expect things would look a bit different. The vast majority of GPUs are not high end, which is what a lot of these 'investment news' websites seem to ignore.

    And on a constantly rising and falling plot (almost exactly up-up-down-down-up-up-down-down if you look), certainly does not indicate a trend unless you extrapolate to silly levels. http://xkcd.com/605/

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    If you take integrated into account, Intel leads, followed by AMD, followed by Nvidia.
    Steam hardware survey has Nvidia at 51%, AMD at 29%, Intel pulling up the rear at 19%.

    I know that is a games platform, but it has a lot of laptops and cards like the GT210 on it so it isn't that clear cut. I can only assume that Intel take credit for a lot of graphics sales that are then turned off by plug in cards.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Like you say it's a games platform, and therefore it's going to be heavily weighted towards systems with more of a focus on gaming, and not really representative of the market as a whole.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Like you say it's a games platform, and therefore it's going to be heavily weighted towards systems with more of a focus on gaming, and not really representative of the market as a whole.
    Actually, I strongly suspect that ...

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ... I can only assume that Intel take credit for a lot of graphics sales that are then turned off by plug in cards.
    has the biggest impact on graphics shipment figures. Most computers sold with Intel processors will count - to Intel - as a graphics shipment. Some of those computers will also have a dedicated GPU, counting as a shipment for AMD or NVidia. Similarly for AMD, although I suspect more AMD APU-based computers are sold without the discrete card, since their top-end APUs have enough graphical oomph for a lot of people (and of course their APUs still lag behind Intel for CPU performance, so are less likely to be including in a gaming PC). The steam survey will (AFAIK) only look at the primary graphics adapter in a system, so a lot of those nvidia-based systems will have an Intel GPU as well....

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    After the issues with a 290x this time last year it will take a massive amount for me to by AMD again.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Like you say it's a games platform, and therefore it's going to be heavily weighted towards systems with more of a focus on gaming, and not really representative of the market as a whole.
    Take a long hard look at the breakdowns on there. A lot of the systems can't play Crysis, many probably top out at Plants vs Zombies. Most popular graphics is "Intel HD 4000". And yes, my AMD E350 based netbook is probably included in those figures, running plants vs zombies and SpaceChem

    I notice that according to Steam, AMD systems have picked up 0.14% in the last month so by the standards of this article Intel should be crushed by the middle of next week.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    @Defiant: What issues? The noisy stock cooler which was completely solved about a month later when non-reference coolers arrived?

    @DWU: It's still only based on systems with Steam installed though.

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    Re: Nvidia pulls away from AMD in graphics card market share

    nVidia > AMD

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