Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 25

Thread: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    But the developers promise to continue and will release the game in Q2 2015.
    Read more.

  2. Received thanks from:

    KeyboardDemon (16-12-2014)

  3. #2
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,857
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    872 times in 736 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    What happened to age ratings?
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  4. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    West Sussex
    Posts
    530
    Thanks
    50
    Thanked
    44 times in 33 posts
    • Chadders87's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 3570k
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) 1600mhz
      • Storage:
      • Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB (Sata3)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire AMD Radeon 7870 2GB
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet 450w (140mm)
      • Case:
      • BitFenix Prodigy
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung 21.5'
      • Internet:
      • Sky Unlimited

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    And user choice?

    They happily let people play Manhunt and GTA (inc clones)...

    On the plus side for them, Steam are doing them a favour. Imagine all the press they will be getting for free. I hadn't heard of the game until this article and must say I do love a killing spree game. Will keep watching...

  5. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Wonderful Warwick!
    Posts
    3,919
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    183 times in 153 posts

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Almost as if they planned it...
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

  6. #5
    Seriously casual gamer KeyboardDemon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,013
    Thanks
    774
    Thanked
    280 times in 242 posts
    • KeyboardDemon's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Sabretooth Z77
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k + Corsair H80 (Refurbed)
      • Memory:
      • 16gb (4x4gb) Corsair Vengence Red (1866mhz) - (Because it looks good in a black mobo)
      • Storage:
      • Crucial M550 SSD 1TB + 2x 500GB Seagate HDDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 (Warranty replacement for 780Ti SC ACX)
      • PSU:
      • EVGA 750 watt SuperNova G2
      • Case:
      • Silverstone RV03
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus Swift PG278Q
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity (40mbs dl/10mbs ul)

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    In answer to the question, "Do I think Steam was right to do this?"

    Yes, absolutely.

    However this is not going to hurt the publishers or stop those that want to play it from getting to play it. If anything it will most likely encourage more sales than discourage them. I think nothing makes a person want something more than offering it to them and then taking it away before they can get it.

  7. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Liverpool
    Posts
    1,020
    Thanks
    34
    Thanked
    26 times in 20 posts
    • [DW]Cougho's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Crosshair VI Hero
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 3600 @ 4.3 1900 FLCK
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Team Group DDR4 @ 3800 C16
      • Storage:
      • 512GB Samsung 870 EVO NVME & 1TB Samsung 850 Evo
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX1070 G1 Gaming
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX760
      • Case:
      • Silverstone FT-05B
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • BenQ XL2730Z 1440p 144Hz
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 1

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Was Steam right? They are business and can decide what they sell and what they do not.

    This is not censorship, which is absolutely wrong, therefore I see no problem.

    As for it's sale outside of Steam as long as the age ratings are observed there is no issue.

  8. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    323
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    27 times in 18 posts
    • Brian224's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i5-2500K
      • Memory:
      • 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 840 SSD 120GB, Seagate 2TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX760 4GB
      • PSU:
      • 650W EZCool Silent
      • Case:
      • Corsair Graphite 230T
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Professional 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 3 x Acer G226HQLBbd
      • Internet:
      • 30 Mb cable (Virgin Media)

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    ...you see the protagonist open fire with a machine gun in what looks like a book store café.
    Can anybody blame Valve for not wanting this right now bearing in mind events in Australia?

  9. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Kingdom of Fife (Scotland)
    Posts
    4,991
    Thanks
    393
    Thanked
    220 times in 190 posts
    • crossy's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Sabertooth X99
      • CPU:
      • Intel 5830k / Noctua NH-D15
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Samsung 850Pro NVMe, 1TB Samsung 850EVO SSD, 1TB Seagate SSHD, 2TB WD Green, 8TB Seagate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix GTX970OC
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX750 (modular)
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster HAF932 (with wheels)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64bit, Ubuntu 16.04LTS
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG Flattron W2361V
      • Internet:
      • VirginMedia 200Mb

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian224 View Post
    Can anybody blame Valve for not wanting this right now bearing in mind events in Australia?
    Good point - I can just see the Daily Maul headlines now - along with the usual "videogames turned gentle bunny loving wimp into frothing-at-the-mouth, death-metal-loving psychopath" copy. Then again, (cynic mode on), couldn't Valve had had a quiet word and just "paused" it until the furore died down.

    As noted in the article there's a lot of nasty videogames out there - heck Bulletstorm's pretty nasty, after all, giving points for "stylish" kills? That said, it's sometimes nice to be able to blow out the frustrations of the day by powering up the PC and getting ridiculously destructive. JC2 and SRIV are good for that (at least in my library - are there others?)

    It's the only way I can explain the (unjustified?) popularity of all these kill-the-zombies type games. And no, I'm not speaking about the cartoony ones like PvZ.

    The "Hatred" game I'm not sure about - probably will bide my time until more details emerge. Although maybe they could raise the dev costs via Indiegogo - after all that seems to have worked (so far) for Red Hot.
    Last edited by crossy; 16-12-2014 at 03:10 PM.

    Career status: still enjoying my new career in DevOps, but it's keeping me busy...

  10. #9
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    13,010
    Thanks
    781
    Thanked
    1,568 times in 1,325 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Carmaggedon was banned nearly 20 years ago (god that makes me feel old) until they replaced the people with zombies and made the blood green. Nothing has really changed.

  11. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    113
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    7 times in 5 posts

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    In the current climate they have done the right thing, it would only inflame the naysayers that use the tired old excuse that video games promte violence.

    As others have said as long as the age ratings are in place and observed there isnt a problem

  12. #11
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    48
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts
    • rootminus1's system
      • Motherboard:
      • XFX 750i
      • CPU:
      • Intel E6750 @ 3.4GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4Gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS GTX 650Ti Boost
      • PSU:
      • XFX Pro 850W
      • Case:
      • SilverStone Raven RV03
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    This makes me a little sad.
    Not that Valve felt the need to pull it from their distribution list, as people have already stated, Valve has every right to conduct it's business as it chooses, and people should not be censored from buying this game if they decide to (as long as it is an informed decision, and age ratings are appropriately applied)
    What gets me is that the devs feel there is a need to make this. Iso shooters feel horrible to play, there's no new or interesting game mechanics visible from the trailer, and as for artistic merit, I think this lowers the standards of the games industry as a whole. I don't think this 'game' should be made, as it contributes nothing.
    If people want a shooter to blast some faces with a bit of gore then there are plenty already on the market which at least make some attempt to justify themselves ethically or else provide engagement and fun by some other means than wanton pointless murder

  13. #12
    x2o
    x2o is offline
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    North Wales
    Posts
    71
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    I find it laughable that steam lets so much rubbish through green light and then takes the moral high ground on this game.

    I really think Steam need to take a long hard look at themselves and the quality controle and fix it and maybe take some of the EA developers to task on released unfinished games instead of ignoring the community.
    Regards
    x2o

  14. #13
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,857
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    872 times in 736 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Quote Originally Posted by x2o View Post
    I really think Steam need to take a long hard look at themselves and the quality controle and fix it and maybe take some of the EA developers to task on released unfinished games instead of ignoring the community.
    Steam and EA have no reason to talk any more. All EA games are released on Origin, not Steam.
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  15. #14
    Comfortably Numb directhex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    /dev/urandom
    Posts
    17,074
    Thanks
    228
    Thanked
    1,026 times in 677 posts
    • directhex's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 5900x
      • Memory:
      • 64GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Seagate Firecuda 520
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
      • PSU:
      • EVGA SuperNOVA 850W G3
      • Case:
      • NZXT H210i
      • Operating System:
      • Ubuntu 20.04, Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG 34GN850
      • Internet:
      • FIOS

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    What happened to age ratings?
    Good question.

    Whilst Steam is able to sell games with no age rating on them, the convention in the US is for boxed games to get an ESRB rating. "M" means 17+, and is used for adult games, but there's "AO" above it meaning 18+. Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo won't allow AO games on their consoles, and most stores won't carry AO-rated PC games.

    Hatred would be an easy AO if it submitted to the ESRB for classification, so it wouldn't be sold by many places, and it's not unusual for a store (like Steam) not to sell an AO-equivalent game.

  16. #15
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by x2o View Post
    I really think Steam need to take a long hard look at themselves and the quality controle and fix it and maybe take some of the EA developers to task on released unfinished games instead of ignoring the community.
    Steam and EA have no reason to talk any more. All EA games are released on Origin, not Steam.
    He's talking about Early Access, not Electronic Arts.

  17. Received thanks from:

    x2o (17-12-2014)

  18. #16
    OilSheikh
    Guest

    Re: Valve Greenlights then Redlights Hatred mass murder game

    What's the point of senseless games like these?

  19. Received thanks from:

    Pleiades (17-12-2014)

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •