Alleged Nvidia GTX Titan X pricing surfaces

[HEXUS]

It's the most expensive single-GPU GTX Titan yet.

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[Sunderas]

Another overpriced card.

[abychristy]

Well in terms of gaming it is overpriced but if you are looking at the studios and most video professionals for them it won't be that much of a price if it gets the most job done for them.

[HalloweenJack]

Well in terms of gaming it is overpriced but if you are looking at the studios and most video professionals for them it won't be that much of a price if it gets the most job done for them.

itrs a gaming card , nothing like a professional card -you don't have the software or service support , and anyway - render farms are cpu based because of the bucket load of ram needed.

[Jonj1611]

Just following on from what HalloweenJack has said, studios and video professionals use Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro cards.

[LSG501]

itrs a gaming card , nothing like a professional card -you don't have the software or service support , and anyway - render farms are cpu based because of the bucket load of ram needed.

you're correct that service support is limited but in terms of software, it's the exact same (cuda) code used on geforce AND quadro, it's just that quadro and titans don't have the double floating point nerfed (and ecc memory in some cases). As to renderfarms... gpu rendering/encoding/calculations are on the rise, the performance gains from using gpu's over cpu's is massive in the right usage scenarios. Titans aren't likely used because they're not really suited to servers but the tesla cards (pretty much a quadro without the graphics output) are and again they use the same code.

Just following on from what HalloweenJack has said, studios and video professionals use Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro cards.

Not all of them do, a lot of smaller companies and freelancers have taken note of the titan because it is literally a cut down quadro/tesla. I've used all 4 (geforce,quadro, tesla and firepro) and honestly in my opinion there's no point buying a quadro except for the amount of memory in most cases, the firepro isn't too badly priced compared wth quadro although in my case it's support in my programs are limited so isn't worth purchase.

In my opinion people are saying the titan is a gaming card, it isn't really, it's pretty much a no service support lower bin quadro 5/6000 or whatever it's called, the geforce 980 (or higher) would be in essence another step down with the double floating point/cuda cores etc disabled accordingly.

Why is the titan X priced like that... 1). because it's nvidia and they can and 2). because it's not being aimed at gamers, it's being aimed at semi pro users who need compute performance/memory and may do gaming as well. Also considering the equivalent quadro will cost in the region of £2500 if not more, the likely £1000 cost of the titan is a 'relative' bargain for my usage scenarios (gpu based 3d rendering).

Having said that if an 8gb+ '980' comes out that would likely be the better buy in my case.

[Jonj1611]

Hmm, I have been doing 3d for years and have always used Quadro in workstations, the majority of places I have been over the years have all used Quadro or Firepro, haven't seen anywhere yet using a Titan.

Maybe for smaller companies the Titan is an option however.

[Tunnah]

itrs a gaming card , nothing like a professional card -you don't have the software or service support , and anyway - render farms are cpu based because of the bucket load of ram needed.

you're correct that service support is limited but in terms of software, it's the exact same (cuda) code used on geforce AND quadro, it's just that quadro and titans don't have the double floating point nerfed (and ecc memory in some cases). As to renderfarms... gpu rendering/encoding/calculations are on the rise, the performance gains from using gpu's over cpu's is massive in the right usage scenarios. Titans aren't likely used because they're not really suited to servers but the tesla cards (pretty much a quadro without the graphics output) are and again they use the same code.

Just following on from what HalloweenJack has said, studios and video professionals use Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro cards.

Not all of them do, a lot of smaller companies and freelancers have taken note of the titan because it is literally a cut down quadro/tesla. I've used all 4 (geforce,quadro, tesla and firepro) and honestly in my opinion there's no point buying a quadro except for the amount of memory in most cases, the firepro isn't too badly priced compared wth quadro although in my case it's support in my programs are limited so isn't worth purchase.

In my opinion people are saying the titan is a gaming card, it isn't really, it's pretty much a no service support lower bin quadro 5/6000 or whatever it's called, the geforce 980 (or higher) would be in essence another step down with the double floating point/cuda cores etc disabled accordingly.

Why is the titan X priced like that... 1). because it's nvidia and they can and 2). because it's not being aimed at gamers, it's being aimed at semi pro users who need compute performance/memory and may do gaming as well. Also considering the equivalent quadro will cost in the region of £2500 if not more, the likely £1000 cost of the titan is a 'relative' bargain for my usage scenarios (gpu based 3d rendering).

Having said that if an 8gb+ '980' comes out that would likely be the better buy in my case.

Yeppers. The Titan is ideal for people who need Quadro levels of power and VRAM, but not because it's being used on the specialist licensed software that it unlocks.

For a long time workstation users were annoyed at having to fork out so much extra for high VRAM cards, but when Titan came along it was a god-send, they got fairly-priced Quadros

[shaithis]

Bring back the days of cross-flashing Quadro <> GeForce and FirePro <> Radeon.

In most cases the hardware is the same, you just pay a large premium for the different BIOS. nVidia and DP is probably the exception but I wouldn't be surprised if that is just intentionally hobbled at (or even after) manufacture.

[jigger]

How many TDP'S will it have? Thats all that matters.

[YazX]

Well in terms of gaming it is overpriced but if you are looking at the studios and most video professionals for them it won't be that much of a price if it gets the most job done for them.

itrs a gaming card , nothing like a professional card -you don't have the software or service support , and anyway - render farms are cpu based because of the bucket load of ram needed.

i'm not sure on which planet you are on but Titan never meant to be a gaming card since its first released, even Nvidia themselves say its not meant for gaming. if you compare Titan Black and 780 Ti, 780 Ti beats titan in every single benchmark for gaming at half of the price, those who get titans for gaming are dumb for paying double the price while not gaining anything in gaming.

Regarding software, you are wrong, there tons of softwares out there who use CUDA for rendering, Nvidia is a hardware manufacturer and its not their responsibility to give support for other softwares, they provide APIs and SDKs for those who create softwares, and they are doing a great job in supporting those APIs and SDKs.

[LSG501]

Nvidia is a hardware manufacturer and its not their responsibility to give support for other softwares, they provide APIs and SDKs for those who create softwares, and they are doing a great job in supporting those APIs and SDKs.

If you have a quadro they do offer 'limited' support regarding software issues, that's part of the reason for the premium pricing.

Also iirc the 780ti and titan black benched pretty much the same, the original titan was slower due to slower clock speeds.

[YazX]

Nvidia is a hardware manufacturer and its not their responsibility to give support for other softwares, they provide APIs and SDKs for those who create softwares, and they are doing a great job in supporting those APIs and SDKs.

If you have a quadro they do offer 'limited' support regarding software issues, that's part of the reason for the premium pricing.

Also iirc the 780ti and titan black benched pretty much the same, the original titan was slower due to slower clock speeds.

limited support for issues that might be caused by their SDKs not for the software issues since they are not the developers themselves.

780 Ti beats Titan Black in every single benchmark, in addition it overclocks better, the difference is not that big though, the only flaw in 780 Ti is VRAM amount, its only locked at 3 GB and no 6GB version since Nvidia would smash the Titan Black if they released a 780 Ti 6GB, so they didnt and kept it at 3GB. only card that got 6GB Vram other than Titans is the GTX 780.

[TRUTHnTRINITY]

A friend of mine is already ready to planning on buying 2 of these when they launch and I might get to receive 2 780tis and maybe even a 980! Can't wait to see some more benchmark leaks for this chip!!

[canopus72]

The Titan Z was a grossly over-priced card at $3000, which was clearly beaten in many benchmarks by the much cheaper ($1500 at the time) AMD 295X2. This is yet another grossly over-priced NVidia card that will get trounced by the much cheaper 390X.

[Bloodbath]

I thought the original Titans price was high but I still ended up buying three of them and they are the best cards I have ever owned, honestly cant see myself upgrading at least for another year or two.